Devil in the details equation

YELLOW · Post by **YELLOW** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:51 pm

we know BOC has a history with math, equations (nlogax) and so on but do we know the equation that The Devil is in The Details is supposedly based on...i cant think of any....

Cupz · Post by **Cupz** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:54 pm

I think it has something to do with that track on old-tunes. Devil-tony-devil, I believe

thedisavowed · Post by **thedisavowed** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:02 pm

Isn't it the golden ratio? Or am I way off?

YELLOW · Post by **YELLOW** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:07 pm

i dont tink youre way off...no has given any suggestions before

novayshun · Post by **novayshun** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:26 pm

i don't know of an equation but it's a popular saying in reference to contracts (referring to small print)

Moebius · Post by **Moebius** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:51 pm

I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that there's an equation involved here.

YELLOW · Post by **YELLOW** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:55 pm

dont wanna find em now, but in an interview one of the brothers sandison said the main riff in The Devil Is In The Detials is based off of a famous math equation...someone wanna find it for me

bluesky · Post by **Fredd-E** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:05 pm

YELLOW wrote:dont wanna find em now, but in an interview one of the brothers sandison said the main riff in The Devil Is In The Detials is based off of a famous math equation...someone wanna find it for me

http://fredd-e.narfum.org/boc/interviews/#nme

Marcus: "If you're in a position where you're making recordings of music that thousands of people are going to listen to repeatedly, it gets you thinking, 'What can we do with this? We could experiment with this...' And so we do try to add elements that are more than just the music. Sometimes we just include voices to see if we can trigger ideas, and sometimes we even design tracks musically to follow rules that you just wouldn't pick up on consciously, but unconsciously, who knows? 'The Devil Is In The Details' has a riff that was designed to imitate a specific well-known equation, but in musical terms. Maybe it won't mean anything to anyone, but it's interesting just to try it. We do things like this sometimes."

It's very easy to find stuff in the interviews because I got them all on one page.. just use find as you type (firefox feature) or something

Or use the orange search box at the top of my pages, yeah that's right

Lawrence · Post by **Lawrence** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:22 pm

I thought it was already known that the devil is in the details usues Tritones; the interval that was banned in the medieval because people thought it invoked the devil. I think the must've been what they were referring to. If not then they were probably just exploiting the power of suggestion by coupling "equations" with religion to make people scared of the song.

wwbjd · Post by **wwbjd** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:28 pm

Lawrence wrote:I thought it was already known that the devil is in the details usues Tritones; the interval that was banned in the medieval because people thought it invoked the devil. I think the must've been what they were referring to. If not then they were probably just exploiting the power of suggestion by coupling "equations" with religion to make people scared of the song.

Very interesting.

From Wikipedia:

Wikipedia wrote:The tritone retains its "Devil in Music" character in popular music, specifically heavy metal. The opening of Black Sabbath's signature song "Black Sabbath" makes heavy use of the tritone. Other metal songs with prominent tritones in their main riffs are Diamond Head's "Am I Evil?", Metallica's "For Whom the Bell Tolls" and "Enter Sandman" and Dream Theater's "As I Am". Though not a metal band, Rush famously used the tritone to create the distinctive opening riff for the song "YYZ". Perhaps the single guitarist to have made the most extensive use of the tritone is Robert Fripp of King Crimson, who used it repeatedly in King Crimson albums like Larks' Tongues in Aspic, Starless and Bible Black, and Red. Other examples are the beginning of Liszt's Dante Sonata, Sibelius's Fourth Symphony and Jimi Hendrix's "Purple Haze". The tritone is also used throughout Benjamin Britten's War Requiem, as an ironic "point of reference" despite the tone's inherent instability, thereby offering subtle commentary on the nature of war itself. Slayer has traditionally used the tritone extensively, and their 1998 album titled Diabolus in Musica reflects that fact.

sevenELIXIR · Post by **sevenELIXIR** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:34 pm

tritones huh... very strange

bluesky · Post by **Fredd-E** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:46 pm

interesting.. someone wikify it

wwbjd · Post by **wwbjd** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:19 pm

I've gone ahead and re-tagged "Devil is in the Details" as Heavy Metal.

plaster · Post by **plaster** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:22 pm

Moebius wrote:I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that there's an equation involved here.

you should read a bit more of their interviews. especially on fredd-e's website.
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thedisavowed · Post by **thedisavowed** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:33 pm

plaster wrote:
Moebius wrote:I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that there's an equation involved here.
you should read a bit more of their interviews. especially on fredd-e's website.

I've seriously learned a TON about BoC since I started working on Fredd's Wiki pages, especially from mining those interviews. Every BoC fan should take another look.

bluesky · Post by **Fredd-E** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:57 pm

thedisavowed wrote:
plaster wrote:
Moebius wrote:I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that there's an equation involved here.
you should read a bit more of their interviews. especially on fredd-e's website.
I've seriously learned a TON about BoC since I started working on Fredd's Wiki pages, especially from mining those interviews. Every BoC fan should take another look.

Definitely!

There's such a treasure of information to be found over there...

YELLOW · Post by **YELLOW** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:15 pm

agreed with disavowed....ive learned a lot from your pages fredd especially the newer wiki ones...thanks

YELLOW · Post by **YELLOW** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:18 pm

thanks for clearing it up lawrence

steve-o · Post by **steve-o** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:52 pm

I'm not checking interviews, sorry, but I thought that they built a beat with the Fibonacci Sequence (Golden Ratio).

The Other · Post by **The Other** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:58 pm

i think the devil is in the details of this song...

i dont even know what that means...to many brews on this sunday afternoon...