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two purported Closes Vol. 1 clips

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This from the same YouTube account that gave us that video for Found the Way that was never satisfactorily dismissed.

(And yes, I did try punching that hash-string from the Close3 page into cosecha-transmisiones with no luck)
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Those two tracks both appear earlier here... Audio seems identical to my untrained ear
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Doubt it. The focus on the spiral thing was pretty convincing for a second, the others could have been anything
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yeah some parts of this sound way too clean/digital
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OK, close3 is probably just Cold Earth edited in some weird way, though I must admit, Helios sounds kinda cool
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For one the track times don't match according to the track times on discogs. But, Close3 is one second shy and the same for Helios sound.

Now, Found the Way is one second shy of what's on discogs too but i faked it so it could be the real deal cos i've been to redmoon and seen BoC at all their shows and they say fakes are just as good as the real deal becuase i've slept at the Hexagon Sun studio and it looks like a pawn shop, yogert shoppe what you wanna call it and marcus told me i could replace michael. And it all boils down to this.

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These have been brought up before IIRC, and they're most likely fakes.
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The 'Helios Sound' track I've had for some time. Really nice and I'd love to know where it actually came from!
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clenci wrote: Now, Found the Way is one second shy of what's on discogs too but i faked it so it could be the real deal cos i've been to redmoon and seen BoC at all their shows and they say fakes are just as good as the real deal becuase i've slept at the Hexagon Sun studio and it looks like a pawn shop, yogert shoppe what you wanna call it and marcus told me i could replace michael.
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"Now, Found the Way is one second shy of what's on discogs too but i faked it so it could be the real deal cos i've been to redmoon and seen BoC at all their shows and they say fakes are just as good as the real deal becuase i've slept at the Hexagon Sun studio and it looks like a pawn shop, yogert shoppe what you wanna call it and marcus told me i could replace michael. And it all boils down to this."


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TheStatPow wrote:"Now, Found the Way is one second shy of what's on discogs too but i faked it so it could be the real deal cos i've been to redmoon and seen BoC at all their shows and they say fakes are just as good as the real deal becuase i've slept at the Hexagon Sun studio and it looks like a pawn shop, yogert shoppe what you wanna call it and marcus told me i could replace michael. And it all boils down to this."


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Damn clenci, that was something else
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clenci wrote:
TheStatPow wrote:"Now, Found the Way is one second shy of what's on discogs too but i faked it so it could be the real deal cos i've been to redmoon and seen BoC at all their shows and they say fakes are just as good as the real deal becuase i've slept at the Hexagon Sun studio and it looks like a pawn shop, yogert shoppe what you wanna call it and marcus told me i could replace michael. And it all boils down to this."


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Pretty sure these are fakes I'm afraid, both of them sound very much digitally produced.
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These have been floating around for years, I think they first sprung up on Soulseek around 2004. In at least one instance later on there was also a "Close4" bundled with them that was confirmed to be something from Half Life 2, but these three have still yet to be identified. If they are indeed the real deal, the brothers and mdg haven't said anything on the matter.

As for the "digitally produced" side of things, remember that Closes was re-issued on CD (in extremely limited numbers) the same year as Music Has The Right To Children, at which point they probably could have cleaned it up and remastered it. Also, compare the synths in Helios Sound to the ones in the right channel of Audiotrack A06/5D at around 2:57.

Hertz HZ almost certainly didn't make these, he probably found them on Soundcloud and just reuploaded them to bolster his credibility. What I really wanna know is where he's pulling his footage from.
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Goiter Sanchez wrote:
clenci wrote:
TheStatPow wrote:"Now, Found the Way is one second shy of what's on discogs too but i faked it so it could be the real deal cos i've been to redmoon and seen BoC at all their shows and they say fakes are just as good as the real deal becuase i've slept at the Hexagon Sun studio and it looks like a pawn shop, yogert shoppe what you wanna call it and marcus told me i could replace michael. And it all boils down to this."


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These tracks are already well known and have yet to be debunked. Several threads have been made here about them and they reappear regularly. There is no way of knowing for sure whether they're fake or real, but I personally think the track labeled Focus on the Spiral sounds nearly identical to something BoC would have done back then. If it's a fake, then the person who made it really knows early BoC. Anyway, they're all good tracks and I certainly don't mind listening them regardless of the author(s).
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That hex on Close3 translates to:
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I just noticed that Close3 has voices in the background. Can anyone understand them ? They're definitely reversed.

Update : after playing it in reverse it's definitely something in a southern English accent, but I can't tell what it's saying due to the loud foreground. It's actually played both forward and in reverse, the same as the melody. The track is made up of one loop that's being switched between reversed playback and normal playback. It's definitely interesting and seems like something BoC would have experimented with during that era.
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drillkicker wrote:I just noticed that Close3 has voices in the background. Can anyone understand them ? They're definitely reversed.

Update : after playing it in reverse it's definitely something in a southern English accent, but I can't tell what it's saying due to the loud foreground. It's actually played both forward and in reverse, the same as the melody. The track is made up of one loop that's being switched between reversed playback and normal playback. It's definitely interesting and seems like something BoC would have experimented with during that era.
In reverse it's "the sun came out last night. He said it sang to him". A sample from Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind.
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