Regarding the Old Tunes tapes

[bungler666]

It have recently discovered some very important things about AFOT, OTV2 and R35 that no one seems to have noticed yet.

They are slightly off speed.

Or rather, the better sounding leaks, including the entire R35 are.

I have come to this conclusion based on this:
The Old Tunes Vol. 2 that is on rareboc is compiled from the original soulseek leak from the 00's and the "AFewOldTunesVol.2" leaks.
On the original leak, the tracks that would later be replaced by the better leak (AFOTv2) are at a slightly slower speed than those from the latter.
The other tracks sourced from the OG leak on the OTv2 compiled by rareboc (We've Started Up, Staircase Whip etc.) are at the same speed.

Now we could come to the assumption that the AFOTv2 leaks are the correct speed and that all other tracks are too slow. This is wrong and I'll explain why.

When comparing AFOT with Boc Maxima (which I used for reference speed, as the tracks there appear on other albums) the tracks are faster and of slightly higher pitch on AFOT. The track 5-9-78 is also a bit faster when compared to the Nissan commercial that feature it. This should also be a good reference as that "rip" of the song is directly from the brothers themselves.
Also, every song on AFOT is off key. Every single one. Now we know that this is something they quite often do deliberately, but every single song? That seems like a weird coincidence.
We can now be quite sure that AFOT is running a bit too fast. 30 ct to be exact.

Regarding R35, the tracks from AFOT are at the same speed as the ones on all other leaks, i.e. too fast. Also, every song is off key and the interludes that also appear on MHTRTC are a bit faster and higher pitched.

I believe that it was the same person that both leaked the HQ AFOT (AFewOldTracksVol.1) and the HQ OTv2 (AFewOldTunesVol.2).
This is because they both feature the letters, perhaps a tag of some sort, "rfl" in all of the song titles and they both feature a low level hum on the right channel which probably comes from that persons tape deck or amplifier.
This person probably leaked R35 too as it matches up with the others quality wise.
This person probably had his deck running slightly too fast.

I believe that the OG leak of AFOT is a second generation copy recorded too fast and that the OG leak of OTV2 is correct speed and leaked by the same person.

SO, to sum this up:
The high quality tracks on OTV2 are too fast.
R35 is too fast.
AFOT is too fast.
This conclusion has been reached by comparing different sources.

Everything is off by +30 ct, if 0 is the correct value.

I might be completely off with this but I think that this time, I'm not.

[luminousdusk]

Noice

[Jango9]

Interesting, have you got the mathematics on hand for what I should multiply the speed of these files by in order to hear them at their proper speed?

[bungler666]

Interesting, have you got the mathematics on hand for what I should multiply the speed of these files by in order to hear them at their proper speed?

I did it in Ableton, so I'm not quite sure on that part. If you want I can just export them with the correct speed and upload them somewhere?

[Echelon]

I want the mystery of who leaked the tapes to be a Scooby Doo episode complete with an unmasking at the end.

[Soul_Slip]

747 and I discussed this some time ago on another thread and the reason the files are not at the same speeds and why an entire tape is off... the reason is because of different tapes being recorded at different times on different machines. Azimuth and other fine adjustment parameters/calibrations are almost always different between units... Cassette decks can suffer from misalignment between units that results in one tape sounding slower or faster. This happens to me when i record a mix on my fisher tape deck then play it back on my Aiwa walkman when i drive in my car... the playback on the walkman is almost a half step slower... sounds awesome actually... and if I sway it a little so it goes further out of alignment, the effect is more pronounced. This also has to do with different motors and belt sizes between decks as well... thats why the same songs between those releases sound off in terms of speed.. i can replicate this right now ha

[bungler666]

I want the mystery of who leaked the tapes to be a Scooby Doo episode complete with an unmasking at the end.

Wasn't it princemurat?

[WakkoWnr]

I actually just uploaded versions of all three tapes with the speeds corrected so they play at the original speeds.
AFOT:
OTv2:
R35TT:

[Juggle]

I actually just uploaded versions of all three tapes with the speeds corrected so they play at the original speeds.
AFOT:
OTv2:
R35TT:

Which tracks from all 3 tapes were the worst offenders in your opinion?

[bungler666]

I actually just uploaded versions of all three tapes with the speeds corrected so they play at the original speeds.
AFOT:
OTv2:
R35TT:

did you change the speed on OTv2? It sounds the same as the original.