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[Echelon]

Sometimes I wonder if all the time they've taken between albums is devoted to making a sonic experience on the level of their past successes. If I think of it from that perspective, it makes complete sense why it takes them so long now. Must get harder as you age to achieve the levels they have. Thought fortunately for them, they're getting out of the mid life crisis zone of their forties which tends to trip most artists up.

Either way, if they are truly polishing up the hypothetical fifth album, I hope that it truly connects with the public the way they intended, rather than a TCH.

[Orbited insanitarium]

BOC are a hard band to sum up to people when introducing to their music, but I agree with echelon that you need time to get something you’ve been working on for possibly 6-7 years to perfection. So like so many on this forum, it’d be safe to say a majority would like the proposed project to have the feel that they have spent this time getting it right.
*mdg storms in from the other room “you’ve all been very quiet in there?, why aren’t you wearing those tinfoil hats that I gave you!!”

[6sided420]

*mdg storms in from the other room “you’ve all been very quiet in there?, why aren’t you wearing those tinfoil hats that I gave you!!”

Just forming my tinfoil hat into a hexagon sir

[Moz]

Whatever the next thing is, there is no way it will meet up with expectations. Like every other album, people will be disappointed. When the dust settles down it will be placed among their best releases. I am just curious will it be "more of the same thing" or "what the hell is this shit?"

[Orbited insanitarium]

Whatever the release is, my unrealistic optimism is saying it’s “just down the line” ,if I’m being honest I thought numerology played a substantial part in BOC’s releases & the new nevermen remix (treat em right) sorta solidifies it. But I guess we shouldn’t rely on numerology too much.

[Twentington]

Whatever the next thing is, there is no way it will meet up with expectations. Like every other album, people will be disappointed. When the dust settles down it will be placed among their best releases. I am just curious will it be "more of the same thing" or "what the hell is this shit?"

I want more "what the hell is this shit", if it doesn't take me at least 2 years of solid listening to properly grasp and understand the album then it's not BOC

[Echelon]

Whatever the release is, my unrealistic optimism is saying it’s “just down the line” ,if I’m being honest I thought numerology played a substantial part in BOC’s releases & the new nevermen remix (treat em right) sorta solidifies it. But I guess we shouldn’t rely on numerology too much.

The closer we get to the unveiling of the Pioneer's Plaque and no announcement of anything big from Warp gives me hope that it could be this fall. I really want a fall album from them. Brisk weather, orange trees and a glorious celebration of decay is the perfect time for new BOC.

[Orbited insanitarium]

BOC are the best artist to take a long autumn walk to. Bocuma, in the annexe, new seeds etc.

[tonx]

I am optimistic that best BoC is still ahead of us, as seemingly impossible as it might be to surpass some of the cosmic lysergic peaks and unfathomable k-hole depths of Geogaddi/Headphase. Eventually there’ll be a flood of unreleased, rereleased (the lost records), and cutting room floor stuff that will melt all our brains.

[mechanismj]

I am optimistic that best BoC is still ahead of us, as seemingly impossible as it might be to surpass some of the cosmic lysergic peaks and unfathomable k-hole depths of Geogaddi/Headphase. Eventually there’ll be a flood of unreleased, rereleased (the lost records), and cutting room floor stuff that will melt all our brains.

I fully endorse this post.

[NTFMTS]

I think their actions and responses based off of the expectations they've garnered over the years is perhaps the most healthy way to handle making music for the public - remove yourself out of the equation. A lot of artists do survive or thrive in the public eye, but considering context, sometimes remaining in the background and giving yourself boundaries that don't belong to what fans want is how the music is crafted in its most basic and essential way.

So when I hear people say it will never be received as well or live up to what is expected - my personal advice is just expect the unexpected and don't accept the disappointment you see others express and just listen and decide for yourselves. And it doesn't really matter at all how much it lives up to how it's received or anticipated - I feel like that is the antithesis to how they make their music... or I'm just projecting

[Orbited insanitarium]

I think their actions and responses based off of the expectations they've garnered over the years is perhaps the most healthy way to handle making music for the public - remove yourself out of the equation. A lot of artists do survive or thrive in the public eye, but considering context, sometimes remaining in the background and giving yourself boundaries that don't belong to what fans want is how the music is crafted in its most basic and essential way.

So when I hear people say it will never be received as well or live up to what is expected - my personal advice is just expect the unexpected and don't accept the disappointment you see others express and just listen and decide for yourselves. And it doesn't really matter at all how much it lives up to how it's received or anticipated - I feel like that is the antithesis to how they make their music... or I'm just projecting

Though to be fair, the bands popularity has majorly increased since tomorrow’s harvest, if you go on YouTube and search boards of Canada & click on today you’ll get 2 or 3 videos of BoC fan-made videos that say “3 hours ago” And I wouldn’t of thought they’d be that popular (well I mean on YouTube) Even though their last album was in 2013 I’m seeing daily videos for its songs (probably because of the themes that now represent scarily the past two years)

I mean if tomorrow’s harvest was one (if not the best) album of 2013, you must feel the weight on their shoulders to follow it up as it’s quite a hard to do

[arvy]

I think their actions and responses based off of the expectations they've garnered over the years is perhaps the most healthy way to handle making music for the public - remove yourself out of the equation. A lot of artists do survive or thrive in the public eye, but considering context, sometimes remaining in the background and giving yourself boundaries that don't belong to what fans want is how the music is crafted in its most basic and essential way.

So when I hear people say it will never be received as well or live up to what is expected - my personal advice is just expect the unexpected and don't accept the disappointment you see others express and just listen and decide for yourselves. And it doesn't really matter at all how much it lives up to how it's received or anticipated - I feel like that is the antithesis to how they make their music... or I'm just projecting

Though to be fair, the bands popularity has majorly increased since tomorrow’s harvest, if you go on YouTube and search boards of Canada & click on today you’ll get 2 or 3 videos of BoC fan-made videos that say “3 hours ago” And I wouldn’t of thought they’d be that popular (well I mean on YouTube) Even though their last album was in 2013 I’m seeing daily videos for its songs (probably because of the themes that now represent scarily the past two years)

I mean if tomorrow’s harvest was one (if not the best) album of 2013, you must feel the weight on their shoulders to follow it up as it’s quite a hard to do

Agreed. Professionals should feel the pressure of possible failure. Respect the silence.

[NTFMTS]

^I don't understand, are you agreeing with what I said or disagreeing lol. I don't think anyone should "feel the pressure of failure," that seems a little selfish at least in the way it's worded. Artists shouldn't be required to do anything imo, and having a parasocial relationship with your audience in which you "owe" them something seems totally contrary to their music.

Also it's worth noting that I've observed a lot of close to the hip fans not being so stoked about TH (though I dig it) so I don't really think that argument about it being so great = more pressure. I honestly think they make an effort to remove themselves from the equation, that's my opinion, but I guess I would follow up by asking you (general you, anyone who thinks this way) what makes you think that they do feel this pressure? It's conjecture at the end of the day

[arvy]

^I don't understand, are you agreeing with what I said or disagreeing lol. I don't think anyone should "feel the pressure of failure," that seems a little selfish at least in the way it's worded. Artists shouldn't be required to do anything imo, and having a parasocial relationship with your audience in which you "owe" them something seems totally contrary to their music.

Also it's worth noting that I've observed a lot of close to the hip fans not being so stoked about TH (though I dig it) so I don't really think that argument about it being so great = more pressure. I honestly think they make an effort to remove themselves from the equation, that's my opinion, but I guess I would follow up by asking you (general you, anyone who thinks this way) what makes you think that they do feel this pressure? It's conjecture at the end of the day

Feeling pressure of failing, separates average from great. Greats tend to go a mile away to achieve more. Not every fart should be consider an art. If you don't have something important to say, better to stay silent.

[arvy]

^I don't understand, are you agreeing with what I said or disagreeing lol. I don't think anyone should "feel the pressure of failure," that seems a little selfish at least in the way it's worded. Artists shouldn't be required to do anything imo, and having a parasocial relationship with your audience in which you "owe" them something seems totally contrary to their music.

Also it's worth noting that I've observed a lot of close to the hip fans not being so stoked about TH (though I dig it) so I don't really think that argument about it being so great = more pressure. I honestly think they make an effort to remove themselves from the equation, that's my opinion, but I guess I would follow up by asking you (general you, anyone who thinks this way) what makes you think that they do feel this pressure? It's conjecture at the end of the day

Feeling pressure of failing, separates average from great. Greats tend to go a mile away to achieve more. Not every fart should be consider an art. If you don't have something important to say, better to stay silent.

=> would loove for them to make (you like to say a curveball), another TCH part 2, to throw everybody of guard. This would mean, that they don't care what others want. This is what I really enjoy about art, complete dedication or total freedom.

[Roswell]

anyone else in the FB group see that IABPOITC book??? crazy cool. the ultimate BoC collectors item.

[arvy]

^I don't understand, are you agreeing with what I said or disagreeing lol. I don't think anyone should "feel the pressure of failure," that seems a little selfish at least in the way it's worded. Artists shouldn't be required to do anything imo, and having a parasocial relationship with your audience in which you "owe" them something seems totally contrary to their music.

Also it's worth noting that I've observed a lot of close to the hip fans not being so stoked about TH (though I dig it) so I don't really think that argument about it being so great = more pressure. I honestly think they make an effort to remove themselves from the equation, that's my opinion, but I guess I would follow up by asking you (general you, anyone who thinks this way) what makes you think that they do feel this pressure? It's conjecture at the end of the day

Feeling pressure of failing, separates average from great. Greats tend to go a mile away to achieve more. Not every fart should be consider an art. If you don't have something important to say, better to stay silent.

=> would loove for them to make (you like to say a curveball), another TCH part 2, to throw everybody of guard. This would mean, that they don't care what others want. This is what I really enjoy about art, complete dedication or total freedom.

=> To separate, lack of effort against subverting expectations. You are already creepled by the pressure, but still, even if you can, you do exactly opposite. I MY OPINION, this is the essence of Boards of Canada. They have thousands of unreleased matterial, but you will never going to see it. Why? You guess.

[Echelon]

Honestly, i thought that TH was such a left turn that I was initially put off. I mean it's an honest to God post apocalpytic soundtrack from the 80s versus the 90s hip-hop drums plus detuned synths trip-hop of the rest of their career.

I've eventually gotten to the point where I think it's really solid for its genre and very fitting for now. It also exemplifies what Arvy wrote about great artists going a mile away from what they did previously. BOC are great artists because they strive to take their sound further. Especially last decade when vaporwave (a genre they essentially created) became a popular thing and a lot of people were aping that classic BOC sound.

I get a feeling that what BOC are going to do next is going to be homage to more genres of music that the vaporwavers don't casually listen to and probably weren't even born yet when it was released aka Societas Tape.

I'm sure there's pressure for BOC to create mind blowing music, but they operate separately from all the music they inspired. (Well except Bibio for TCH )

[Orbited insanitarium]

^I don't understand, are you agreeing with what I said or disagreeing lol. I don't think anyone should "feel the pressure of failure," that seems a little selfish at least in the way it's worded. Artists shouldn't be required to do anything imo, and having a parasocial relationship with your audience in which you "owe" them something seems totally contrary to their music.

Also it's worth noting that I've observed a lot of close to the hip fans not being so stoked about TH (though I dig it) so I don't really think that argument about it being so great = more pressure. I honestly think they make an effort to remove themselves from the equation, that's my opinion, but I guess I would follow up by asking you (general you, anyone who thinks this way) what makes you think that they do feel this pressure? It's conjecture at the end of the day

Well I should clarify what I meant about pressure, tommorow’s harvest explores themes of isolation, nothingness & “the inevitable stage that lies ahead” i imagine it would be quite hard to move past those themes and return with something all together different (heck, the do that with every album) but the recent album feels mismatched with the previous 3 (in terms of themes not musicality).
But on the lighter side I’m all for BoC album 5: a new age!