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[Navaru]

I couldn’t help it, I went over and read some older stuff about us lol, nothing wrong with bearing your teeth occasionally
Nor am I claiming to be better, Fight Fire With Fire is still my favorite Metallica track.

[Magrathea]

[Echelon]

As I said my friend, no harm done. These last few years are a struggle and nihilism is definitely warranted. I've gone through some lousy shit myself so if you feel you need to vent go ahead. BOC in the least should bring us together

Put on Sometimes again

[Sky and Trails]

Apologies for sidetracking things a bit...but,

I've read a lot of your thoughts and comments in this forum, Magrathea, and I love your point of view on things.
I won't go into anything private, but I'll just say that I get where you're coming from. You wrote very candidly in other threads about things that helped me a lot.

You're post a few pages back that got a bit of a negative reaction and that GIF made a great case for itself.
I think it was more a case of timing with other people's responses. It drowned out your message and made it difficult to come back around to addressing it in more detail. I mean, it got talked about, but I'm sure it was difficult to read.

That being said, just know this is me...sticking my hand out in the air like a fucking tool, wanting to shake yours, and then going for the hug, not knowing if you'll make fun of me for it or not.

I love this image, the quote, and what I assume is your signature at the bottom?

This is the FIRST time I've actually posted with a laptop, and not my stupid ass phone. SO MUCH BETTER! (No offense to the creator of the forum. MUCH OFFENSE toward my phone.)

[Davism]

I realize that this may be an unpopular take here, but I don't see evidence that nihilism is rooted in truth, and I would never deem it an appropriate world view. In the midst of all the turmoil that has happened in the history of this planet (especially now), I really do believe in a higher purpose and eternal hope. I love that the bros' music is a unifier, and I believe that some of their work reflects glory, whether they believe that or not. Magrathea, I believe there's good news and at the risk of turning some people off, I'd be down to talk privately if you want. And that invite goes for anyone here who feels like they are going through it and don't see a reason for lasting hope.

(Not trying to be provocative or preachy, just want to offer something to those that I share a bond with)

[Navaru]

There was a monologue that Rusty Cole did on the first season of True Detective that has stuck with me since and defined my worldview (as sad as that is) to this day. Yes nihilism probably isn’t the best outlook, but it does have its merits.

[Echelon]

I do honestly believe that TH is a concept album on nihilism and not the legit thing. The case in point is when Mike said "We've gotten more nihilistic over the years." Then there was that quote about God in Nothing is Real which I feel represents how within the 21st century a lot of the younger generation don't believe in God because of the level of cynicism in our culture. This is the alternative to the cults of the last century and organized religion itself. It's equally destructive but in a different way. You can look how people are simply out to destroy others on social media because they have no morals or anything to believe in.

If Geo is the evils of religion than TH is the evils of nihilism. Both can be argued for and have benefits but I think BOC were commenting how both cause destruction of society.

[NorthSaturnian]

Closes Vol 1 (1992) catalogue number: AOMC16

Play by Numbers (1994) catalogue number: AOMC43

so when are we getting to hear these mysterious 27 cassettes they made between 1992 and 1994?

[bizcastl]

Closes Vol 1 (1992) catalogue number: AOMC16

Play by Numbers (1994) catalogue number: AOMC43

so when are we getting to hear these mysterious 27 cassettes they made between 1992 and 1994?

Closes volumes 2 - 28

[babylulu]

Closes Vol 1 (1992) catalogue number: AOMC16

Play by Numbers (1994) catalogue number: AOMC43

so when are we getting to hear these mysterious 27 cassettes they made between 1992 and 1994?

Closes volumes 2 - 28

Closes Volume 16 just hits different, not to totally disregard Closes Volume 4, which is brilliant in it's own. "Psychedelia Math Geometry IDM" from Closes Volume 23 HAS to be my favorite track

[TheStatPow]

I realize that this may be an unpopular take here, but I don't see evidence that nihilism is rooted in truth, and I would never deem it an appropriate world view. In the midst of all the turmoil that has happened in the history of this planet (especially now), I really do believe in a higher purpose and eternal hope. I love that the bros' music is a unifier, and I believe that some of their work reflects glory, whether they believe that or not. Magrathea, I believe there's good news and at the risk of turning some people off, I'd be down to talk privately if you want. And that invite goes for anyone here who feels like they are going through it and don't see a reason for lasting hope.

(Not trying to be provocative or preachy, just want to offer something to those that I share a bond with)

Nihilism isn't the truth of course. It's an embellished version of it.

The truth is far more uglier. Whatever is responsible for this isn't benevolent or caring to us, would even go as far as to say it has no idea what we're about or that we exist.

The universe is balanced? if it was things wouldn't exist. Opposite polarities cancel out. Eitherway if it was balanced it never meant we wouldn't get short strawed.

If you compare suffering with pleasure you'll find that pleasure is almost non-existent in comparison.

For every argument of eternal hope and better things to come in the afterwhatever an argument to the contrary can be made and is tons more likely, eternal suffering.

The universe strives to reach entropy. The entropy of this universe is pure suffering and we're just a lucky fluke caused by reverse entropy.

Joy, a commodity so rare in this universe that we don't think twice before spending it yet we spend more times thinking about which flavor of chips we'd rather buy.

That said. Boards of Canada kinda makes it worth it

[Echelon]

I realize that this may be an unpopular take here, but I don't see evidence that nihilism is rooted in truth, and I would never deem it an appropriate world view. In the midst of all the turmoil that has happened in the history of this planet (especially now), I really do believe in a higher purpose and eternal hope. I love that the bros' music is a unifier, and I believe that some of their work reflects glory, whether they believe that or not. Magrathea, I believe there's good news and at the risk of turning some people off, I'd be down to talk privately if you want. And that invite goes for anyone here who feels like they are going through it and don't see a reason for lasting hope.

(Not trying to be provocative or preachy, just want to offer something to those that I share a bond with)

Nihilism isn't the truth of course. It's an embellished version of it.

The truth is far more uglier. Whatever is responsible for this isn't benevolent or caring to us, would even go as far as to say it has no idea what we're about or that we exist.

The universe is balanced? if it was things wouldn't exist. Opposite polarities cancel out. Eitherway if it was balanced it never meant we wouldn't get short strawed.

If you compare suffering with pleasure you'll find that pleasure is almost non-existent in comparison.

For every argument of eternal hope and better things to come in the afterwhatever an argument to the contrary can be made and is tons more likely, eternal suffering.

The universe strives to reach entropy. The entropy of this universe is pure suffering and we're just a lucky fluke caused by reverse entropy.

Joy, a commodity so rare in this universe that we don't think twice before spending it yet we spend more times thinking about which flavor of chips we'd rather buy.

That said. Boards of Canada kinda makes it worth it

Damn man it's like you smoked the wax off the Tomorrow's Harvest record. That's awesome

I think the number one reason I enjoy TH nowadays is because it really asks some big questions about our existence. I've come a long way from thinking it was their emo album to finding myself asking similar questions that they asked back in 2013. Owl of Minerva am I right?

[bocbocbocboc]

I'm still holding to my theory that they're waiting on this thread reaching 1000 pages first.

[dolochov]

I'm still holding to my theory that they're waiting on this thread reaching 1000 pages first.

Let's write bocbocbocboc for 55 pages

[SamuraiDrifter]

Nihilism isn't the truth of course. It's an embellished version of it.

The truth is far more uglier. Whatever is responsible for this isn't benevolent or caring to us, would even go as far as to say it has no idea what we're about or that we exist.

Why's that "uglier"? Personally I think it's better that way. If there was any cosmic significance resting on my decisions, or those of humanity, that would be depressing.

Having no essential purpose and no ultimate design by a deity is what makes us free.

If you compare suffering with pleasure you'll find that pleasure is almost non-existent in comparison.

Where in the world is your evidence for that?

For every argument of eternal hope and better things to come in the afterwhatever an argument to the contrary can be made and is tons more likely, eternal suffering.

How is "eternal suffering" more likely than eternal pleasure? They're two sides of the same coin, both unrealistic
From everything we can perceive about the Universe (which is very limited by our mortal, terrestrial perspective) the only thing eternal is change.

The universe strives to reach entropy. The entropy of this universe is pure suffering and we're just a lucky fluke caused by reverse entropy.

"The entropy of this universe is pure suffering?" Where did you get that and what's it even supposed to mean? Entropy is neutral, it can be the root of both the end of good events and bad ones.

Joy, a commodity so rare in this universe that we don't think twice before spending it yet we spend more times thinking about which flavor of chips we'd rather buy.

Idk, I don't think joy is really so rare. On any given day the contented, relaxing, enjoyable, or otherwise good moments at least equal the bad ones for me. Like yes, I've gone through rough periods, as has everyone, but I don't think there's a y basis for portraying happiness as some unattainable ideal totally drowned out by the incomprehensible suffering of the Universe. Happiness and sadness are just emotions caused by electrochemical fluctuations, neither is more inherent to reality than the other.

That said. Boards of Canada kinda makes it worth it

That I can agree with.

[Davism]

I realize that this may be an unpopular take here, but I don't see evidence that nihilism is rooted in truth, and I would never deem it an appropriate world view. In the midst of all the turmoil that has happened in the history of this planet (especially now), I really do believe in a higher purpose and eternal hope. I love that the bros' music is a unifier, and I believe that some of their work reflects glory, whether they believe that or not. Magrathea, I believe there's good news and at the risk of turning some people off, I'd be down to talk privately if you want. And that invite goes for anyone here who feels like they are going through it and don't see a reason for lasting hope.

(Not trying to be provocative or preachy, just want to offer something to those that I share a bond with)

Nihilism isn't the truth of course. It's an embellished version of it.

The truth is far more uglier. Whatever is responsible for this isn't benevolent or caring to us, would even go as far as to say it has no idea what we're about or that we exist.

The universe is balanced? if it was things wouldn't exist. Opposite polarities cancel out. Eitherway if it was balanced it never meant we wouldn't get short strawed.

If you compare suffering with pleasure you'll find that pleasure is almost non-existent in comparison.

For every argument of eternal hope and better things to come in the afterwhatever an argument to the contrary can be made and is tons more likely, eternal suffering.

The universe strives to reach entropy. The entropy of this universe is pure suffering and we're just a lucky fluke caused by reverse entropy.

Joy, a commodity so rare in this universe that we don't think twice before spending it yet we spend more times thinking about which flavor of chips we'd rather buy.

That said. Boards of Canada kinda makes it worth it

If the universe is nihilistic, I don't believe we'd experience joy at all. I also don't believe suffering is necessarily bad or even a symptom of a universe lacking a sovereign God; I'd actually argue that it's necessary in order to maximize the most people to freely choose God... and I don't say that flippantly.

But yes, BoC is one of the joys in this world that makes life beautiful.

[Orbited insanitarium]

"God's in his Heaven / All's right with the world"

I thought about this quote from NGE while reading both StatPow and davism's posts.
There are many interpretations of it, each one either being complex yet simple.
My interpretation is this, If a holy father of humanity stayed in a place of overlook but no interference with earthly affairs, then things like war, famine and greed would be much less because the wrath of God on humanity would be far greater.
A system of belief holds more power than actions.

Now I consider myself an atheist.
But with a grand scope, these words brings me perspective on the grander psychological issue of reality and organized faith and religion.
When times are bad, I read this quote not to make me feel better but it definitely gets me contemplating.

Davism's words particularly reminded me of it.

[rodox_head]

Might wanna take this here:
https://www.twoism.org/forum/viewtopic. ... =Religious

[Davism]

Might wanna take this here:
https://www.twoism.org/forum/viewtopic. ... =Religious

Yeah sure, I won't continue.... when I see a member reach out the way Mag did, it feels wrong to not share what I believe to be the most important realization in the Universe. There's been a lot of talk about nihilism in here and just wanted to balance it out if it's starting to get to some of us.

[Remulo]

I'm still holding to my theory that they're waiting on this thread reaching 1000 pages first.

Let's write bocbocbocboc for 55 pages

Great idea