Has anyone checked out this supposed duffy upload?

[Riverbed0666]

Hmm, yeah seems this is most likely a fake. Well, I'm definitely enjoying listening to it at least

[niski]

hard cutoff at 12khz must mean encoded with a lossy format most likely mp3/mp4 (audio layer still mp3) either by youtube whilst processing the video or the uploader when they put it together into a video

Weren't the original uploaded snippets uploaded as RealAudio files? Something lossy as heck anyway iirc to make it low bandwidth for the ancient website. Makes sense they'd be hammered at high frequencies.

A full track if it were real ought to be ripped from a source that didn't have that kind of compression so yeah that's another strike against it being real

it doesn't mean anything, when you rip tapes you have to encode them into a format anyway

[Riverbed0666]

I still keep thinking about all this. I think niski is correct. I'll definitely need to talk to someone who understands audio better than I do if I'm going to dig any further. Though I'm kind of out of ideas at what else I could look at at this point

[niski]

I still keep thinking about all this. I think niski is correct. I'll definitely need to talk to someone who understands audio better than I do if I'm going to dig any further. Though I'm kind of out of ideas at what else I could look at at this point

i believe audio wise you can't go really further than checking if that synth is definitely not in phase

also, the audio has pretty clear 60hz hum and harmonics - so it is not a person from the UK who ripped this

[Riverbed0666]

Looking at it again on a different spectrum analyzer, I do see some very quiet hum in the beginning before the music starts. It looks like it peaks at 60Hz, but it's really hard for to me to tell if its 50Hz vs. 60Hz. I can't really see it anywhere else in the track though. niski, is this where you saw it?

A typical culprit for hum would be a guitar amp. I think there's an electric guitar in this track but I'm not 100% sure. Another culprit could be a tape deck for ripping the cassette (like niski mentioned). It's pretty quiet, so I personally am leaning towards it coming from a tape deck or something similar. The hum from a guitar amp tends be much louder than what I'm detecting here. So that would indeed point towards the ripper being in the US/Canada.

Honestly, I'm not sure if the location of the person ripping the track makes that big of a difference. People move around, the original copies of Acid Memories could have wound up in North America one way or another. I don't really remember

Canada does use 60Hz, so if that hum is actually coming from a guitar amp instead that would point towards this being recorded in the US or Canada. Which....maybe doesn't help that much anyway IIRC the brothers were in North America when Acid Memories was recorded.

[niski]

Looking at it again on a different spectrum analyzer, I do see some very quiet hum in the beginning before the music starts. It looks like it peaks at 60Hz, but it's really hard for to me to tell if its 50Hz vs. 60Hz. I can't really see it anywhere else in the track though. niski, is this where you saw it?

no, it is visible throught the entire track on a more precise spectrum.

A typical culprit for hum would be a guitar amp. I think there's an electric guitar in this track but I'm not 100% sure. Another culprit could be a tape deck for ripping the cassette (like niski mentioned). It's pretty quiet, so I personally am leaning towards it coming from a tape deck or something similar. The hum from a guitar amp tends be much louder than what I'm detecting here. So that would indeed point towards the ripper being in the US/Canada.

yep, guitar amp hum would have stronger harmonics. there is indeed 60hz guitar amp hum on a legitimate boc track, "statue of liberty"

Honestly, I'm not sure if the location of the person ripping the track makes that big of a difference. People move around, the original copies of Acid Memories could have wound up in North America one way or another. I don't really remember

it does make it less likely nonetheless. not impossible, but less likely.

IIRC the brothers were in North America when Acid Memories was recorded.

you're off by a decade

[mGardener]

Dude still wants to keep this hoax alive

[Cohesion]

Dude still wants to keep this hoax alive

Is this a known/existing hoax?

[mGardener]

Dude still wants to keep this hoax alive

Is this a known/existing hoax?

80% sure.
Plus, Growing Hand and Petina use the same acid sample.

I mean, imagine that instead of acid memories, it was MHTRTC, and we had only a snippet of wildlife analysis, a fake would only have Wildlife analysis-likes.

The previous Growing Hand fake felt more believable than this.

[niski]

i think peater is a different troll trying to bank off the duffy upload, the growing hand track is just udio AI extensions of its own extensions, hence the quality gets worse and worse. the OG faker (or not) took effort to actually remake duffy

[J.Jardine]

They're 100% GENUINE!

[mGardener]

They're 100% GENUINE!

Have you even seen the thread? The “acid synth” in the middle of the Duffy excerpt sounds nothing like the “full version”, and it feels off with the other, clearly distorted synths. And the other songs just sound like an alternate version of “Duffy” and have a ton of artifacts mid-song.

Peater, wherever you are, you’ve reached a new level of being an asshole, by not only making a fake just to confuse the community, but by putting no effort in making it, passing the job to AI.

The least a lot of people want in this community is low quality fakes.

At this point Hexagon Sun should just release these tracks instead of making these assholes get what they want, attention.

[J.Jardine]

They're 100% GENUINE!

[outhudd]

These sound horrible. Musically I mean.

[Riverbed0666]

I'm thinking these two new peater tracks aren't genuine. I can hear the tape hiss dropping in and out on Growing Hand. The drone noise on Petina sounds like it came directly from the intro of Duffy. I hear weird artifacts on Growing Hand as well. I'm leaning towards both of these being AI extensions of different parts of that original Duffy. But this is only at first listen.

[NTFMTS]

They're just fake tunes

[SunkenStudios]

Peater is some random guy larping as the original creator of this hoax using UDIO probably, it's insanely obvious due to the fact that Growing Hand's tape hiss vanishes torward the end, and Petina has a 0.1 second sample of some synth from the original video, you can tell by it popping in the intro, and if you compare Petina to b.o.c acid memories excerpt, Petina has a completely new tape hiss (generated with white noise in audacity probably) and extends further into the high end.

[mGardener]

They're just fake tunes

I might as well make a compilation of BoC fakes and call them “A Few Fake Tunes”.

[mGardener]

https://youtube.com/shorts/VUgwFnQ63Ik? ... d8334z0WZJ

PLEASE TELL THEM TO STOP!!!!!!