What does BOC think about civilization?

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dreadpirateroberts wrote:To me, their music has a commentary on our current state of civilization. There are themes of primitive man throughout their music, listen to the end of Kaini Industries for just one example. There is also commentary on the future and collapse of our civilization, see Tomorrow's Harvest.

They use analog devices, often degraded and distorted, to produce their music, which I believe to be a commentary in and of itself:
"We just destroy the sound. Most people spend ages trying to polish the sound and improve it, but we use tapes and old gear and analogue synths to downgrade the sound and make it more damaged, to sound older. The damaged sound adds a character that you can associate with an imaginary and distant time or place. It's like a barely controlled chaos, it's always on edge, threatening to fall apart, just like the best music of the past, before everyone started using computers to sanitize and sterilize music in a cold and clinical way." - J Ghosn's retrieved Feb 2008

Their music evokes a feeling of nostalgia in the listener, remembering better times that once were, perhaps when we were living in a state of innocence. I believe this emotion lies within us not just because of a lost childhood, but also because of a lost state of existence in the world that is the root of all our instincts.

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Spot on.

I, so often now, come back to this quote by Mark Fisher (see the hauntology section of his Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Fisher#Hauntology

“At a time of political reaction and restoration, when cultural innovation has stalled and even gone backwards, when "power... operates predictively as much as retrospectively" (Eshun 2003: 289), one function of hauntology is to keep insisting that there are futures beyond postmodernity's terminal time. When the present has given up on the future, we must listen for the relics of the future in the unactivated potentials of the past.”
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dreadpirateroberts wrote:To me, their music has a commentary on our current state of civilization. There are themes of primitive man throughout their music, listen to the end of Kaini Industries for just one example. There is also commentary on the future and collapse of our civilization, see Tomorrow's Harvest.

They use analog devices, often degraded and distorted, to produce their music, which I believe to be a commentary in and of itself:
"We just destroy the sound. Most people spend ages trying to polish the sound and improve it, but we use tapes and old gear and analogue synths to downgrade the sound and make it more damaged, to sound older. The damaged sound adds a character that you can associate with an imaginary and distant time or place. It's like a barely controlled chaos, it's always on edge, threatening to fall apart, just like the best music of the past, before everyone started using computers to sanitize and sterilize music in a cold and clinical way." - J Ghosn's retrieved Feb 2008

Their music evokes a feeling of nostalgia in the listener, remembering better times that once were, perhaps when we were living in a state of innocence. I believe this emotion lies within us not just because of a lost childhood, but also because of a lost state of existence in the world that is the root of all our instincts.

Thoughts?
Spot on.

I, so often now, come back to this quote by Mark Fisher (see the hauntology section of his Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Fisher#Hauntology

“At a time of political reaction and restoration, when cultural innovation has stalled and even gone backwards, when "power... operates predictively as much as retrospectively" (Eshun 2003: 289), one function of hauntology is to keep insisting that there are futures beyond postmodernity's terminal time. When the present has given up on the future, we must listen for the relics of the future in the unactivated potentials of the past.
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I read a bit of Julian Cope's autobiography and it was really good. I'd love to find a copy of The Modern Antiquarian book.

Side note: I just noticed that in the DE:BUG interview for Tomorrow's Harvest, Mike, when asked about "fans," instead uses the word "listener." A meaningful distinction.
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WATER_CAN-_- wrote:
Tom wrote:
dreadpirateroberts wrote:To me, their music has a commentary on our current state of civilization. There are themes of primitive man throughout their music, listen to the end of Kaini Industries for just one example. There is also commentary on the future and collapse of our civilization, see Tomorrow's Harvest.

They use analog devices, often degraded and distorted, to produce their music, which I believe to be a commentary in and of itself:
"We just destroy the sound. Most people spend ages trying to polish the sound and improve it, but we use tapes and old gear and analogue synths to downgrade the sound and make it more damaged, to sound older. The damaged sound adds a character that you can associate with an imaginary and distant time or place. It's like a barely controlled chaos, it's always on edge, threatening to fall apart, just like the best music of the past, before everyone started using computers to sanitize and sterilize music in a cold and clinical way." - J Ghosn's retrieved Feb 2008

Their music evokes a feeling of nostalgia in the listener, remembering better times that once were, perhaps when we were living in a state of innocence. I believe this emotion lies within us not just because of a lost childhood, but also because of a lost state of existence in the world that is the root of all our instincts.

Thoughts?
Spot on.

I, so often now, come back to this quote by Mark Fisher (see the hauntology section of his Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Fisher#Hauntology

“At a time of political reaction and restoration, when cultural innovation has stalled and even gone backwards, when "power... operates predictively as much as retrospectively" (Eshun 2003: 289), one function of hauntology is to keep insisting that there are futures beyond postmodernity's terminal time. When the present has given up on the future, we must listen for the relics of the future in the unactivated potentials of the past.
I watched this about 4 years back and thought I heard the source sample on Julie and Candy. Sounded like a melotron. Became convinced they’d lifted it from the tape.

I visited long Meg 2 summers ago as it’s not too far from where I live. I took some of my crystals there to charge them up. There is a a spiral carved into the rock. I was totally sober yet saw the whole stone breathing as though it was alive. Not seen anything like that since and it was just so bizarre. I’ve never looked at rocks the same way since.
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Den wrote:I read a bit of Julian Cope's autobiography and it was really good. I'd love to find a copy of The Modern Antiquarian book.

Side note: I just noticed that in the DE:BUG interview for Tomorrow's Harvest, Mike, when asked about "fans," instead uses the word "listener." A meaningful distinction.
Given that "fan" comes from the word "fanatic," I am guessing Mike wants to avoid any religious associations between BoC and their listeners. With the brothers' fascination with cults and mind control, they must put a lot of thought into how they go about having a "cult" following like us.
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