17. You Retreat In Time And Space

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atubofturquoisecustard wrote:there potentially is a way to escape this darkness somewhere, somehow!
This has been my thesis for how Geogaddi can be interpreted. The first half calls to mind the earthly destruction caused by mankind's follies, culminating in Alpha & Omega where the album sounds like it changes itself halfway through. The second half acting as a "be not afraid" form of confronting the darkness in our minds.

I get the feeling that Inferno extrapolates on that second half whereas TH focuses on the first.
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I just realized that the bass throughout the second half of the song may be alluding to Oscar See Through Red Eye.
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Vintage BOCtastic synth (counter)melodies - woke up with this going round & round in my head
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sowhereareyouliving? wrote:Vintage BOCtastic synth (counter)melodies - woke up with this going round & round in my head
I've caught my self humming it multiple times this weekend already too :D
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Den wrote:I just realized that the bass throughout the second half of the song may be alluding to Oscar See Through Red Eye.
I came back here to say this. The bass part is like, spot-on for Oscar See Through Red Eye. They HAVE mentioned that they sometimes sample themselves in an interview... if I recall correctly, that is. But that's what this track feels like to me - a memory, a reminiscence.

This is the song on the record that has made me cry a few times - first listen I got choked up just from the beauty of it, but on repeated listens alone (I was at a record store the first time) it's bringing back these really beautiful, fond memories of the relationship I had that just fell apart. It's a really hard experience.
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Anyone else think that the wah-wah guitar sounds a little Daft Punkesque? In a good way. A beautiful track and a clear 'we can give you what we know you want' moment.
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This French guy has an intriguing [but extremely sad] theory about the meaning this song :
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Electronic Dave wrote:I'm loving this track...its so gently beautiful...I started welling up.

This may be strange but from 2 min 47 seconds I keep thinking it sounds like an imaginary Carl Sagan TV programme theme tune partly composed by Daft Punk. Also the intro to an old UK ITV Schools program called 'Picture Box' popped into my head.
Strange you should mention Picture Box, the presenter Alan Rothwell passed away just two weeks ago.
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joeblackcircles wrote:Anyone else think that the wah-wah guitar sounds a little Daft Punkesque? In a good way. A beautiful track and a clear 'we can give you what we know you want' moment.
Personally got more Royksopp Melody AM vibes.
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joeblackcircles wrote:Anyone else think that the wah-wah guitar sounds a little Daft Punkesque? In a good way. A beautiful track and a clear 'we can give you what we know you want' moment.
It reminds me of Rich Man's Plaything from the GTA5 soundtrack, but that's just me.
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turquoise70 wrote:
Den wrote:I just realized that the bass throughout the second half of the song may be alluding to Oscar See Through Red Eye.
I came back here to say this. The bass part is like, spot-on for Oscar See Through Red Eye. They HAVE mentioned that they sometimes sample themselves in an interview... if I recall correctly, that is. But that's what this track feels like to me - a memory, a reminiscence.
When they talk about sampling themselves they mean that they’ll record their own jams and then sample phrases from the recording. This doesn’t sound like a sample to me - I wonder if they were thinking about Oscar See Through Red Eye though.

You Retreat In Time And Space sounds like a live arrangement for a BOC song we’ve never heard before. It’s peculiar. There’s this choral étude sounding section in the beginning, then the first phrase in the melody recalls TCH, and the second phrase that responds to it recalls MHTRTC. And underneath it all is this guitar groove that makes the song feel like something they remixed for Societas X Tape.
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Wildfire wrote:
Electronic Dave wrote:I'm loving this track...its so gently beautiful...I started welling up.

This may be strange but from 2 min 47 seconds I keep thinking it sounds like an imaginary Carl Sagan TV programme theme tune partly composed by Daft Punk. Also the intro to an old UK ITV Schools program called 'Picture Box' popped into my head.
Strange you should mention Picture Box, the presenter Alan Rothwell passed away just two weeks ago.
Oh my word I did not know that - the song made me think of that spinning silver trinket on the intro for some reason.
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I am till fucking salty about the outrageous comment in The Guardian review that this is "hold music for a broadband provider".

Fuck off.
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Rikkiebags wrote:I am till fucking salty about the outrageous comment in The Guardian review that this is "hold music for a broadband provider".

Fuck off.
I have not, and will never, read this now-infamous review. I've heard more than enough! This album is a true-blue masterpiece through and through.
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Think I'm wearing out the back button... I usually try to listen to albums all the way through, no repeats (obviously no skips, I'm not a complete heathen), but cant get enough of this one
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Rikkiebags wrote:I am till fucking salty about the outrageous comment in The Guardian review that this is "hold music for a broadband provider".

Fuck off.
The thing for me is that hold music doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing. Opus 1 by Tim Carleton is some of the most famous hold music ever and it's a haunting banger of a tune.
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im learning some of the songs and made a fun little loop
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Anyone picked up on what sounds to me as horn sounds at 3:42 and 3:45? Very ancient and tribal, I love it.
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Helluvagood! This is auditory heaven.
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Evrox wrote:Anyone picked up on what sounds to me as horn sounds at 3:42 and 3:45? Very ancient and tribal, I love it.
i hadnt thought about it as tribal, but it definitely feels like a natural, unavoidable earthly force. like a tectonic plate screaming in excrutiating pain or tornado thunder in the distance. really intrigued by it's inclusion, since it's a loud / jarring event in one of the chillest and softest songs they've made since TCH. but the tune seems uninterrupted, it jumps right back into the nostalgia for another minute and fades away. it kind of feels like when, out of nowhere, you remember something you fucked up or didn't do and your stomach drops
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