18. I Saw Through Platonia

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yamanogato wrote:
akirako wrote:I think this is the most menacing sounding track on the album. It makes me imagine a pessimistic sci-fi/horror film with modified humans and huge laboratories that are clinically clean but creepy, and it having some sort of harrowing open-ended final scene.
I love this. Almost like the ending of Prometheus; the horror of some final twist is muted by a flash of cryogenic frost. The cruel non-ending all but implying another film to follow.

The heartbeat only ends because the buzz does, too.
The assurance that we will meet again in another life.
Yeah, totally!!! I'm bummed about Prometheus because the good bits are incredibly good and the bad bits didn't connect with me at all, but the ending definitely is part of the good bits and something I'd like to see more of in cinema.

Have you watched Beyond the Black Rainbow? It's a very BoC film imo!

Btw, is it yamanogato as in 山のgato? As in Iriomote wildcats maybe? It's a really cool username!!
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This sounds like the kind of track that usually opens their albums… except for the ominous heartbeat layered under it.

Does anyone know what the final computery sound is? Is it like a ZX Spectrum tape loading or something? A modem?
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just had my second listen through this track and let myself get tony soprano'd again at the end
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noveltywave wrote:This sounds like the kind of track that usually opens their albums… except for the ominous heartbeat layered under it.

Does anyone know what the final computery sound is? Is it like a ZX Spectrum tape loading or something? A modem?
According to BOCpages its a carrier signal. Although online I've read that it basically leads to nothing
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Thought about I Saw Drones when, well, I SAW it in the tracklist.
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underrated wonder of an outro that makes me think: Bocset is still real.
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rd1994 wrote:
noveltywave wrote:This sounds like the kind of track that usually opens their albums… except for the ominous heartbeat layered under it.

Does anyone know what the final computery sound is? Is it like a ZX Spectrum tape loading or something? A modem?
According to BOCpages its a carrier signal. Although online I've read that it basically leads to nothing
Hopefully the 'leading to nothing' isn't an intentional metaphor - We need ONE more EP! :mrgreen:
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Gotta say this is my second favourite closer after 'Corsair' now
...what subtlety?
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The last 20 seconds or so when it stutters to an end with the heartbeat is an incredible end to the album - their best, in my humble opinion.
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I feel very much that this track is open-ended with regards on what’s to come, i.e. no ’end of BoC’ or anything such. It pretty much resonates with a feeling that the future is unknown.

As for the title, my reading is that “I saw through Platonia” is a stylized version of “I saw through it all.” “Platonia” evokes an idealized or philosophical realm, so seeing through it suggests seeing past appearances, illusions, or the entire construct, but I sense a double-edged meaning here with s possible, more mundane flavor.
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I love the all to short bell sound from ;39 - :45. Just gives me evocative imagery of a ship's bell ringing in a fogged in harbor at night. Somehow very warm and cozy.
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I always think of Charon the ferryman and the crossing of the river Styx when I hear the bell sound
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Ectonaut wrote:I always think of Charon the ferryman and the crossing of the river Styx when I hear the bell sound
That's an excellent shout.
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PlatrixECV wrote:I love the all to short bell sound from ;39 - :45. Just gives me evocative imagery of a ship's bell ringing in a fogged in harbor at night. Somehow very warm and cozy.
Very reminiscent of that little reversed bells snippet in You Could Feel The Sky starting at 2:07.
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GUNBOUND wrote:My take and maybe the most unpopular opinion on this release:

Inferno sounds even better when you listen to it with the tracklist order reversed. Starting with Platonia and ending with Introit.

Just try It.


Slower start, but I see what you mean.
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gestell wrote:
PlatrixECV wrote:I love the all to short bell sound from ;39 - :45. Just gives me evocative imagery of a ship's bell ringing in a fogged in harbor at night. Somehow very warm and cozy.
Very reminiscent of that little reversed bells snippet in You Could Feel The Sky starting at 2:07.
Also reminds me of similar sounds just after each bass note in New Seeds.

This is growing to be a real favourite - possibly their strongest album closer yet. The mysterious and emotionally ambiguous chord changes give me similar vibes to IABPOITC, which was always going to be a winner.
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This is an astounding music video, gobsmacking;
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