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Alright my man. I have a scientific background, but not one in physics, so I can’t really help you there. I do appreciate that you’re open to criticism, that’s a good quality to keep!
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"My man" reminds me of the Simulation episode in Rick & Morty ^^

I'm craving for criticism, that's one reason why I keep talking about all these stuff, it's for people to help me understand better and see my flaws. But because I'm way too excited and epansive, I imagine most people don't really read and get defensive as soon as they can.

But it's okay, I'm sure these posts will have at least attracted some attention; there's no point in forcing it any further... As Radiohead said, everything is in its right place ♫
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HighLowView wrote:"My man" reminds me of the Simulation episode in Rick & Morty ^^

I'm craving for criticism, that's one reason why I keep talking about all these stuff, it's for people to help me understand better and see my flaws. But because I'm way too excited and epansive, I imagine most people don't really read and get defensive as soon as they can.

But it's okay, I'm sure these posts will have at least attracted some attention; there's no point in forcing it any further... As Radiohead said, everything is in its right place ♫
I get it man. Just odd way to view the internet really, at least from my angle. I prefer to come here and to laugh and to maybe learn a bit. I have indeed laughed and learned a bit from this thread.
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Salut Llydia !
Excellent philosophy: you can't access anything beautiful if you don't keep your childlike spirit... so it's great to have a good laugh.
And if that laughter comes at someone else's expense, then it backfires and teaches us not to do it again, so that's great too :D The universe is perfect, but maybe we see life as plenty of flaws because we're full of them.

Regarding how I see the internet... I truly believe it's the main tool for humanity's emancipation, and that this was planned from the start.

Because computers, you could say, originated with DARPA, the US national military agency... And we also have the IAO logo, which shows us that from the very beginning, "they" knew what they were doing.

This aligns with what Serge Monast says in the Toronto Protocols, although of course I go further: the ultimate goal isn't to enslave us in the New World Order these satanic forces they are deploying against us... but forcing us to evolve, without compromising our free will, therefore, through chaos. Ordo ab chaos...

Because, it's true, there are a lot of really bad things about the internet, and we're experiencing them more and more intensely.

But since it's been around, so in the space of barely a quarter of a century, we've gone from people who believed in almost everything without questioning anything, to a population that's almost exclusively distrustful.

Admittedly, we're extremely divided, and for the moment, dialogue is almost nonexistent because we're... on edge, full of hatred and contempt, etc. But it doesn't take much, ultimately...

And personally, I'm counting on that "little thing." This year, one or more events will surely happen that will change everything and push us to our limits, to make us approach each other peacefully and kindly, with a real desire to understand what's happening and move forward together...

We'll see ;)
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I already talked about some artwork, from IABPOITC which may subliminaly shows us "444" ; the 7 chakras ; to Inferno's cover containing the 4 colors of the Great Work, etc.

But with Geogaddi I spotted a nice clue : there's a picture where the kaleidoscopic effect renders a red cross in white ground... A "blue child" is looking in this direction, with fun & play in the eyes...
The red cross of Templars, the Saint George's Cross...

Personally, I'm terrible at history: not only did it never interest me in school, but ever since I became a conspiracy theorist in 2012 and realized that the essentials were being hidden from us, well... it's hard to find it interesting. But I'm clearly missing something: I could explain the probable causes and consequences of historical events from my perspective.

But hey, there are already plenty of authors who do this brilliantly, and I'm boring you enough as it is, lol.

But looking at the artwork for Inferno, I just noticed something... that I find sensational. But I'm warning you, you'll have to use pareidolia and follow me with my metaphysical ramblings.

So, we have a large wall, which comes from the Canadian War Museum.

The first connection I make, which resonates with what I said earlier, is that William Guy Carr was a commander in the Canadian Navy, and he supposedly had access to documents that "drove him crazy"—he wrote books that present an extremely conspiratorial version of history. In any case, I'm thinking of "Pawns in the Game," where he explains that, while conducting his investigation after a document was stolen from a museum (about Albert Pike, if I remember correctly), he claims that the Illuminati have been in control since at least the French Revolution, that they orchestrated the major wars, the major movements (Communism), and so on.

As always with this book: everything should be taken with a grain of salt; you can't trust any source because everyone can be wrong, or can mislead us. But when you see how what he's saying resonates with current events and revelations... And, btw, I don't usually use this word, but the hypothetical "people who possess Gnosis and rules us from the shadow and chaotize us to make us evolve etc" = Illuminati...

In short, the wall in the Inferni artwork: it separates Heaven and Earth. But above all: the ventilation-like shapes... I think there's a message there. Because, without having measured precisely, it looks like these vents are arranged in a 1x 4x 4x pattern, and a little higher up on the right, the same pattern: 1x 4x 4x.

Can you see where this is going, for those of you who have followed me this far?

It's possible that BoC subtly slipped in a double reference: a conspiracy theory one (William Guy Garr) and a metaphysical one, the number 144. Which links the 5 numbers, the 5 Platonic solids, our celestial bodies diameters, the Bible...

Moreover, while exploring the work of Code 43 (a French YouTuber specializing in pyramids), I learned that 144, 216, 360... in short, the usual numbers in sacred geometry, supposedly come from the first Pythagorean triple: 3, 4, 5. And we see :
-3+4+5 = 12 so maybe that's why 12 is so important ; 6/5 = 1,2 ; 6/5 Phi² = Pi at 99,998% accuracy...
-3x4x5 = 60, the perfect number, ideal for counting cycles.
-1/3 + 1/4 + 1/5 = 0,7833333... which links to the Schumann Resonance ?
-60 + 12 = 72 ; 60 x 1,2 = 72... And remember that 72 brings Phi in mathematics... And 60 / 1,2 = 50.
I know it's maybe irrelevant to calculate numbers as an "autist" like this (with all my love for my fellow bros and sis who have mental disorders, maybe I one of you guys \o/ ), but it really is amazing to find such harmony, whether these are pareidolic hallucinations or a genuine recognition of the nature of things.
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When I tell you I only look at things superficially... The other day, I made the connection between the mysterious logo for the Trans Canada Highway campaign (19 hexagons, including 12 green, 6 white, and one yellow in the center) and Inferno (19 tracks, including 6 by Mike & Marcus, and a "golden bonus track" by Giraud's Mirror).

At this time, I just saw with the bot that the story of the Incal, developed by Moebius in Les Humanoïdes Associés, fit very well with what I was saying here ("an initiatory tale where an object of golden light gradually leads humanity and the hero towards an expansion of consciousness and a form of cosmic unity")...

...but I hadn't even bothered to read the entire Wikipedia page. Because, towards the end, we understand that one of the main inspirations for this work is Alchemy!!!

I'm taking the liberty of copying and pasting and translating this passage from Wiki "l'Incal":

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The Incal story is built around alchemical concepts. Indeed, the album titles all reference them:

"The White Work" for "The Incal Light," and "The Black Work" for "The Incal Black" are the first two phases of the Great Work;

"That Which Is Below" and "That Which Is Above" are concepts derived from the alchemical method of analogy;

"The Fifth Essence," or quintessence (see the scientific discoveries of the alchemists), completes Plato's Four Elements (earth, water, air, fire).

From the very first album, John Difool is divided into these four elements.

The last page of "The Fifth Essence" evokes the character of ORH, gold being the ultimate stage in the transmutation of metals.

For its part, the character of Animah draws its inspiration from Carl Gustav Jung's anima, which represents the feminine side of every man (the animus being the masculine side)[1]. Jung himself is known for his interest in the relationship between psychoanalysis and alchemy.

The inspiration is also Kabbalistic in nature, or at least based on Hebrew concepts. The character "OHR" is the embodiment of light (Hebrew: ohr, אור), and one accesses him through the higher spiritual stage of "DAATH" (Hebrew: daath, דַעַת = knowledge, wisdom).
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You see? I didn't mention Carl Gustav Jung here, but I believe he was one of the greatest minds of the modern era. His work linking psychology and alchemy has had a profound impact on humanity, although I think we're only beginning to realize it today.

In Kabbalah, Daath is often called the 11th Sephirah, but it is not officially one of the ten Sephiroth.
11 = 5+6...
I believe it means something like : when a human being experiences "Red Work" (temporary dissolution of the ego, feeling of unity with God/Love, etc.), therefore a "5+6 experience" (Seal of Solomon), one discovers a certain hidden, inner knowledge. The knowledge of Gnosis... at least some facets of it.

Anyway, all this, as usual, is just my interpretation, but it really reinforces my understanding of BoC and all this esoteric symbolism.

Cheers ♥♫
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HighLowView wrote:When I tell you I only look at things superficially... The other day, I made the connection between the mysterious logo for the Trans Canada Highway campaign (19 hexagons, including 12 green, 6 white, and one yellow in the center) and Inferno (19 tracks, including 6 by Mike & Marcus, and a "golden bonus track" by Giraud's Mirror).

At this time, I just saw with the bot that the story of the Incal, developed by Moebius in Les Humanoïdes Associés, fit very well with what I was saying here ("an initiatory tale where an object of golden light gradually leads humanity and the hero towards an expansion of consciousness and a form of cosmic unity")...

...but I hadn't even bothered to read the entire Wikipedia page. Because, towards the end, we understand that one of the main inspirations for this work is Alchemy!!!

I'm taking the liberty of copying and pasting and translating this passage from Wiki "l'Incal":

"
The Incal story is built around alchemical concepts. Indeed, the album titles all reference them:

"The White Work" for "The Incal Light," and "The Black Work" for "The Incal Black" are the first two phases of the Great Work;

"That Which Is Below" and "That Which Is Above" are concepts derived from the alchemical method of analogy;

"The Fifth Essence," or quintessence (see the scientific discoveries of the alchemists), completes Plato's Four Elements (earth, water, air, fire).

From the very first album, John Difool is divided into these four elements.

The last page of "The Fifth Essence" evokes the character of ORH, gold being the ultimate stage in the transmutation of metals.

For its part, the character of Animah draws its inspiration from Carl Gustav Jung's anima, which represents the feminine side of every man (the animus being the masculine side)[1]. Jung himself is known for his interest in the relationship between psychoanalysis and alchemy.

The inspiration is also Kabbalistic in nature, or at least based on Hebrew concepts. The character "OHR" is the embodiment of light (Hebrew: ohr, אור), and one accesses him through the higher spiritual stage of "DAATH" (Hebrew: daath, דַעַת = knowledge, wisdom).
"


You see? I didn't mention Carl Gustav Jung here, but I believe he was one of the greatest minds of the modern era. His work linking psychology and alchemy has had a profound impact on humanity, although I think we're only beginning to realize it today.

In Kabbalah, Daath is often called the 11th Sephirah, but it is not officially one of the ten Sephiroth.
11 = 5+6...
I believe it means something like : when a human being experiences "Red Work" (temporary dissolution of the ego, feeling of unity with God/Love, etc.), therefore a "5+6 experience" (Seal of Solomon), one discovers a certain hidden, inner knowledge. The knowledge of Gnosis... at least some facets of it.


Anyway, all this, as usual, is just my interpretation, but it really reinforces my understanding of BoC and all this esoteric symbolism.

Cheers ♥♫


"Geogaddi" was not only the result of a band trying to move forward with their music, it was also an album so packed with symbolism that entire pages where the album was analyzed soon began to appear on the internet. If you read there it says, among other things, that a track like "1969" contains a sample with the name "David Koresh" played backwards. The song is 4:19 long, which corresponds to the date, April 19, 1993, when Koresh's cult in Waco, Texas, was stormed by the FBI. The song title "1969" refers to the year when it became illegal for the US Army to use the type of gas that Koresh killed himself and the cult members at the Waco massacre with.

About two-thirds of what is said on these internet pages is on the album, the rest they have made up themselves,
Marcus laughs.

It's a bit like Kabbalah. You take a page out of the Torah, hold it up and down in front of a mirror and say "Look! I see a letter up here! Everything makes sense now! It's true!".



Man is programmed to find patterns,
says Michael.

Even when we are babies, we learn to recognize faces and voices. If someone believes that our music is built on symbols and starts looking, they will find them too.


We lost our grip on what Boards Of Canada really is,
says Marcus.

Others began to define what the band was instead of us, which is why we are doing interviews now. We want to show who it is driving this bus.
come in the direction of the bus now

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Watercan : Wait a minute... You.. are... my bus ???
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Btw, look at the last video from Anton Petrov : he wears an orange t-shirt, with hexagons and stuff. He's in !!!

No, I'm kidding. And I know everything I say here can be... laughable... At least, if you enjoy it, that's great !
But I made my part lol. Even if there's maybe 80% of wrong stuff in what I say, I hang on to the bright clues because I love the path where they lead me. You know, hope, love, peace, happiness...

I think still have a bit of a rational, scientific mind, so I'm counting on you to dismantle all my fallacious arguments and help me move forward, recognize my mistakes, etc. But please, if you really want to challenge my ideas, I hope you'll do better than the previous one... His approach is rhetorical rather than dialectical. We're here to learn and evolve together, aren't we?
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Sorry guys, I shouldn't have reacted like that.
I just showed up out of nowhere, telling you all these crazy things, most of them unrelated to BoC... it was obvious I wasn't going to get only positive reactions.
It all went to my head and I'm too emotionally involved.

I should go out touch some grass ^^

See you soon and take care !
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Know you are loved and you are obviously very smart and I hope you stick around. But yeah... kinda went off the rails there if you ask me.
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Hi Cupz! Thanks for saying that... I love you too, BoC fans ♥♫ And everyone !!!
And if I say I love everyone, it's not because I'm worth more than anyone else or because I have more love inside me than others. It's more because, with my worldview, since it's the same current that flows through everyone, then... you are all literally facets of myself, I am one of your facets, you get the idea.

And if love is, as I believe, the resonance of our wave aligning with the "pilot wave" (it's still metaphorical since we're far from that level in science, but I feel like it works a bit like that), the more we align ourselves with truth, justice, and compassion, the more we feel this love.

In fact, if we consider the possibility of a mystical simulation, all the Sacred Scripture takes on a new light that seems coherent to me (for what I understood, since I still haven't read the whole AT...). The same goes for the countless parascientific accounts throughout history... Whether we're talking about the miracles of Jesus or the Prophets, or the great Saints and Mystics (Padre Pio, Yvonne-Aimée de Malestroit, Christian Schlatter...), and even Marian apparitions (Fatima etc., there's great documentaries about this in french, "M and the third secret" and "Miracles"), all of this finds now possible explanations.

(I'm not saying everyting is true ; obviously, there are malicious people everywhere who want to deceive others for their own gain, and spirituality is a "great" area for that, since it touches on the realm of the spirit, something we're not even supposed to believe in, lol. No wonder there's so much manipulation involved... And that's not even mentioning "honest deceptions," people who deceive themselves and lead others astray... Be wary, because that could very well be my case!!! All the more reason to verify everything I say, please ♥)

But there you have it, faced with the sheer number of testimonies, and the difficulty science has in explaining certain miracles... and given the current state of our science, which contributes to the collapse of our system (because people don't believe in it anymore, naturally, after decades of being manipulated and scorned... and the Covid scandal hasn't broken yet...), in short, there are good arguments for trying to build bridges between science and spirituality. It's already underway, and has been for some time, and if there's anyone who should be rejoicing wherever he is, it's Nikola Tesla ♥

We just have to think outside the box, of course, and "spiritualize our reasoning." Hmm, by the way, about the track "14 All Reason Departs," I just realized... I had made the connection with the 14 parts of Osiris* and the symbolism of our time here on Earth, but I hadn't noticed the language of birds under "departs." De-parts, like... "re-gluing"... by using pareidolia, as usual.

And regarding intelligence*, I see it this way : God is the supreme intelligence, and the more we align ourselves with Him, the more He speaks through us.

Conversely, the further we stray from Him, the more evil we say and do, the more Satan acts through us... I've already said this, but I like to see things this way, because then nothing comes back to me, everything comes back to God, and that's essential to avoid getting a big head, pride, etc. Because if it's all a "ego thing" (5+6, Transcendance... temporal dissolution of the ego to break through the bubble, or the Giraud's Mirror, in a way...), then the "everything comes back to God" stance is not false modesty, but the expression of felt truth, and an essential safeguard against sinking into egocentrism.

And of course, if I'm fundamentally wrong in my perspective, then I'll simply have been good at appearing intelligent, and Satan is speaking through me! With my understanding of God / Satan, that makes sense...

It's up to us to unite to determine the truth, about this and everything else... because as long as we don't unite, we'll only have access to the crumbs our leaders are willing to leave us. And I clearly don't want to live in the world they're creating...

Salut mes frères et soeurs ♥♫


*I almost forgot: according to Egyptian mythology, if I understand correctly, Isis found 13 pieces of Osiris, but not his phallus, which had been eaten by a fish (see 153 and Vesica Pisces). She then reassembled Osiris, giving him a "substitute phallus." Now, the phallus is the organ of creation... I see a connection with the Logos.

According to my perhaps flawed interpretation, the Logos would be God's ability to transform his will into reality. In other words, it would be the power of someone who "wears the Name of the Father" (Logion 12 from Phillip) and possesses the Philosopher's Stone (the ability to transmute matter and act upon Life), and therefore also Christ, of course (different terms that would designate the same thing).
Philosopher's Stone, because it "crystallizes thought."

Since matter is like condensed light...

Anyway, Osiris's phallus of substitutions corresponds to our "half-Logos": we can create (give life, paintings, constructions, everything that "comes from us"), but only as humans, not as Gods who possess the Logos. We don't know how to create by transmuting matter, even if our consciousness constantly does so (because consciousness transmutes the information of Mercury into experienced reality).

So there you have it, since I had this idea in the last few days, I think it belongs here, even if, once again, it deviates quite a bit from BoC (unless they are who I think they are, in which case, we're still right in the middle of it).

(And usual disclaimer : I know nothing and I could be wrong about anything!)
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Hey my brothers and sisters ♥♫

I'll soon be compiling everything I've found on BoC's work, to organize it all neatly and concisely.

But right now, I'm going to use this platform to share some things that are important to me. And I know this might be divisive, but I think we've reached the point where we all need to talk about these things together.

And as always, these are just my beliefs and analyses; I know nothing and I could be wrong about anything. We're here to grow together, and no one imposes their truth because… who knows it?



A) Conspiracy Theories:

In my opinion (and you know I'm far from the only one right now), we live in a world where there are tons of conspiracies going on around us. Because of the unquenchable thirst of misguided humanity, and thanks to the infernal structure of our system (a cult of secrecy and unbridled neoliberalism, since with their armies of lawyers, unlimited funds, and the networks they've built, they do whatever they want, whenever they want), those with power or influence are constantly plotting.
I'm generalizing, of course; not everyone is like that. But the problem remains, and that makes it even more pernicious.

We, the people, are truly the ones being taken for a ride: it's only now, in the last few years, that we're really starting to open our eyes. But it's been blatant for a long time. For example, here's what the very influential John Swinton said in 1880 at a banquet for prominent journalists and businessmen in New York:

“There is no free and independent press in America today. You know that as well as I do. Not one of you dares to write your honest opinions, and you know very well that if you do, they won’t be published. I’m paid a salary not to publish my opinions, and we all know that if we dared to do so, we’d be out on the street immediately. The job of the journalist is the destruction of truth, blatant lies, the perversion of facts, and the manipulation of public opinion in service of the Powers of Money. We are the obedient tools of the Powerful and the Rich who pull the strings behind the scenes. Our talents, our abilities, and our lives belong to these men. We are prostitutes of the intellect. All of this, you know as well as I do!”

The CIA popularized the term "conspiracy theorists" in the 1960s to discredit American citizens who didn't believe the Warren Report on the JFK assassination.

In France, it was after the 9/11 attacks, and especially after Thierry Meyssan's book "9/11: The Horrifying Deception," that our media began bombarding us with the term "conspiracy theorist."

And then, as the years went by, since events always provided more ammunition for conspiracy theorists... the media, politicians, etc., never stopped bombarding us with it. A veritable thought police was established (it has existed before, with McCarthyism, for example), along with its array of anti-conspiracy social engineering tactics.

We've been led to believe everywhere on the airwaves that conspiracy theorists are brainless paranoids who sniff glue all day on the internet in their basement... but in fact, most conspiracy theorists are ordinary people... They are just those who have had their manipulation too much, those who have taken the famous red pill that has tipped their mental representation of the world.

It's no coincidence that a majority of us have become conspiracy theorists in our time… everything has been done to ensure that. Our system has truly been acting as a conspiracy-making machine for decades, and this has intensified significantly in recent years. It distributes red pills every day… The Epstein affair alone shows us how corrupt our entire ruling class is, everywhere in the world. The media may try to downplay the situation, however compromised they may be… but people aren't fooled.

Note: "Conspiracy theorist" is a generic term; it encompasses a wide range of categories, as with other labels. My definition is "someone who no longer trusts this system." From there, opinions vary widely… From those who firmly believe the Earth is flat (and in my opinion, they are fewer than we're led to believe) to those, a bit more measured like myself, who have realized we're all being constantly manipulated and that, as ordinary people, we can't possibly know anything for sure.

You can spend years studying a particular subject in depth, but… all you'll get is a well-supported opinion, but never true certainty: to know the truth, you'd have to be inside the heads of the people involved, and/or have access to classified defense files, hidden archives, etc.

For every subject, you'll find the thesis and the antithesis, and you'll find convincing arguments on both sides. So, it's perfect for training your critical thinking skills, and since we've been living with this situation for a while now, we've all evolved quite a bit together, even if we don't fully realize it yet…

Because even though we remain more divided than ever, and even though we harbor hatred toward others… (our “political enemies,” or “those who are replacing us,” etc.), we have become much more aware of the situation. We can much more easily spot a scam, an attempt at manipulation, a fallacious argument…

Of course, we still get fooled, but we are progressing, quickly and surely. Individually and collectively. That’s precisely why the situation is so unmanageable everywhere in the world: we’ve had enough, we no longer swallow the nonsense of our leaders.

The media are in “Hypernormalization” mode (Adam Curtius), they play their script and pretend that the situation is normal and under control… But the people have clearly understood that this society is a scam, a “system for exploiting human beings.”

B) The 99%

One of the most effective mass manipulation techniques (but also one of the most difficult to produce) is the illusion of consensus. The famous 99% trick.

Example: Purdue Pharma caused the deaths of a million Americans and launched the country into the worst opioid epidemic in its history (an epidemic that is unfortunately still ongoing) by making everyone believe that its drug was less than 1% addictive… For those who enjoy series, watch Dopesick, in 8 episodes. A brilliant series, even if the subject matter is nauseating.

Example 2: It's even more nauseating when we remember that during the Covid vaccination campaign, we were treated to this "99% safe and effective" claim… Today, even if the scandal hasn't yet broken, we all know it was a terrible lie. We've realized that our TV pundits are just salespeople

Example 3: The Mark Lynas study, which states that 99.9% of scientific studies validate the hypothesis of anthropogenic climate change. The problem is that we still hear people brandishing this study as an authoritative argument, even though it is flawed in three ways (selection bias, subjective classification bias, and bias related to the scope and time period studied).

Furthermore, we talk about consensus, but there are many "climate skeptic" scientists, yet they are dismissed as if they don't exist or are marginal.

And when I'm told to believe in something as if it were a religion, I can't help it; I don't believe it. Basic reactance. So, given that we've been bombarded with climate change non-stop for 20 years, that those who don't believe the official narrative are subjected to all sorts of insults, and that it justifies all kinds of tightening of the screws (taxes, green vehicles, soaring prices, incessant guilt-tripping, etc.), and given our leaders' propensity for conspiracy... I suspect something's fishy.

Mind you, I'm not saying there isn't a climate tipping point: I certainly felt the excessive heat two weeks ago, like everyone else; it was even the first time I'd ever been so hot... but on the other hand, all my warning signs are flashing red regarding this whole thing.

There are trillions of dollars to be made in just a few decades. And I think we're wrong to have materialistic reasoning like, "It can't be a conspiracy since it doesn't benefit the oil companies"... Everything indicates that the bigwigs of the oil companies, the various energy and agri-food consortiums, industries, Big Pharma, and finance... everything indicates that they are colluding. Of course, on the surface, it's competition, and the law of the strongest prevails... But behind the scenes, who really knows what's going on, the under-the-table payments, the favors returned, the revolving door...?

And that's not even mentioning geoengineering… Until a few years ago, you were considered a conspiracy theorist if you talked about it online, but nowadays it's accepted, and we realize it's a common practice in many Westernized countries… Our "climate sorcerer's apprentices" control the weather here and there, with products they've been secretly experimenting with, without our consent, for decades…

And today, we're supposed to accept it, like everything else. We're supposed to say, "Well, they know what they're doing; the proof is, the scientists says…"

A brief digression about science: I don't know if I've already covered this here, but there are serious and recognized studies that have been sounding the alarm about the state of science for at least 20 years:

- John Ioannidis in 2005, who statistically demonstrated that the majority of published research findings are simply false.

- Marcia Angell stated in 2009 that the pharmaceutical industry has taken total control of medical knowledge. It has infiltrated universities, hospitals, and medical journals…

- Horton, writing for The Lancet in 2015, confirms this pessimism, stating: "The scientific literature is 'afflicted' by a culture of fraud and sensational storytelling. Under pressure to be productive, researchers 'sculpt' their data to fit their theories."

-Nature (2016) reveals a collapse of the experimental method: more than 70% of scientists are unable to reproduce the work of their peers. If science can no longer verify itself, it loses its status as proof and becomes a mere institutional belief.

-Sergio Sismondo, in 2018, finally speaks of a system where publications are no longer written by independent scientists, but by specialized communication agencies.

Or again:

-"Paper Mills" - Nature, 2021,

-The Decline of "Disruptive" Science (Park, Leahey, and Funk) Nature, 2023

-The Alzheimer's Fraud and the Fall of Icons - Science, 2022

-Goodhart's Law Applied to Science - Biased Science, 2024…


And let's not forget Edward Bernays, the inventor of the PR profession. He was Freud's nephew, and the great-uncle of Marc Randolph, co-founder of Netflix… You could say that mass manipulation through psychology is a family business.

And we also remember Lysenkoism, that communist practice where scientists were bought to advance the agenda of the regime.

So? With all these points I've raised, and the experiences we've all had over the past few decades, can we finally agree that we can no longer believe in anything, and that this is disastrous?

Whatever happens, there will always be a high level of public distrust of official pronouncements; and every "consensual scientific truth" will provoke endless debates, with convincing arguments on both sides.

We are condemned to live in an increasingly deplorable situation, to tear each other apart more and more, to tear our hair out in front of our screens and lose our sanity reading the latest idiotic tweet… unless we unite and build our world together.
At least, that's the only solution that comes to mind, but if you have anything else…

C) Hatred

Here's another major conspiracy that oppresses us all: The Clash of Civilizations!!!

For me, even though I know I know nothing, it's obvious that our true leaders deliberately orchestrated all this chaos. They brought in millions of poor people, mainly Arabs and Africans, and created all the conditions for disastrous integration and for hatred to erupt everywhere.

And before we start blaming the thugs in the projects who hate white people, or the deranged immigrants who rape and kill… or even the fanatized muslims that commits horrible attacks and kills dozens of innocent souls (we're all innocent, even as a sinner, because we don't know who we are nor where we are)... it would be good to realize that before being executioners, these people are victims.

Personally, if I'd been born in a housing project, with a mother on medication, a deceased father, a long family history linked to the Algerian War, a brother involved in drugs, most of the guys in the neighborhood involved in drugs or trouble… and on top of that, rap music, which relentlessly blasts the worst nonsense on the radio… (in terms of social engineering, rap is something else), in short, under such conditions, I would very likely have gone off the rails, become a delinquent, maybe even a criminal, or worse.

If I'd been born in a more or less ruined country in Africa, without a proper education, traumatized from childhood by war and the horrors of village life, if I'd seen my friends drown on the journey that cost us everything, all to end up in a country that treats me like shit and where people don't respect each other… I think it would have completely driven me crazy, and I could have committed the worst. You have to be in a terrible mental state to rape and kill someone...

This thought experiment can be done with all types of criminals, and it's beneficial because it allows us to stop hating them (hatred is a poison, literally; it kills us slowly and completely impairs our judgment) and to understand that the roots of evil lie elsewhere.

Now, listen, I'm not saying: YOLO, it's all good, let's forgive all thieves, rapists, and murderers; after all, they're victims and life is a fairy tale.

No, of course we must ensure justice prevails on Earth. All those who commit crimes must be tried and punished accordingly; but we must keep in mind that the biggest criminals, by far, are those who orchestrate all this, all this injustice…

This is, in fact, one of the driving forces behind the current chaos. Look at what's happening in England since Brexit… The country has become a veritable dictatorship that imprisons its honest citizens and lets criminals act with complete impunity. Am I exaggerating? Maybe, I don't know, but the fact that there are over 3 million English people ready to chant some pretty nasty slogans in the streets, I think we really shouldn't ignore the phenomenon.

Leftists, faced with this, react exactly as they've been conditioned to do, and close their eyes, thinking, "This is the rise of fascism, these are the darkest hours, I can hear the jackboots..." At no point do they consider that these millions of people taking to the streets might include genuine racists, but what's certain is that they see their country being completely overturned, and themselves along with it; and that's why they're demonstrating, even if it means being insulted by the entire political and intellectual class of the "free world."

And listen, I'm not being gentle with leftists here, but honestly, I'm not exactly gentle with far-right "fascists" either: you'd have to be completely blind not to see that immigrants are victims, precisely. To believe they came to invade us, when these migratory flows are clearly due to multiple factors caused collectively by our ruling class… That's what I find most regrettable about the far right: they're conspiracy theorists enough to understand that the mass media are constantly manipulating people, but they don't push the analysis far enough to understand that by succumbing to hatred and voting for the far right, they're playing right into the hands of the oligarchy that orchestrated all of this.

And some "fascists" would reply: "But listen to the Muslims, they don't hide it, they want to crush the infidels"... yes, some radicalized Muslims have reached that point, and it's truly regrettable for everyone. But it's the same in other religions, other movements... Look at Judaism, you'll see people there who are just as radicalized, who swear only by the death of their brothers, the Muslims...

In short, you get the idea: on all sides, we're wrong on some points and right on others. Whether we're atheists, Christians, Jews, Muslims, left-wing, right-wing, conspiracy theorists, or whatever, we're all inevitably fooled, given the number of subjects our brains process, the little time we dedicate to them, the real impossibility of knowing the truth because of the secrecy of our society. And I'm the first to admit it; with everything I talk about, it's inevitable that I'm right on some subjects and wrong on others.

And it doesn't sit well with me at all to live in a world where such a situation is considered normal.

D) Democracy

When our media assure us that we live in a democracy, I give a hollow laugh. In a world where crucial information is hidden in classified files and secret archives, there's no possibility of democracy. In a world where the powerful who make the laws meet away from the cameras (Bilderberg, Dinner of the Century, etc.), where obscure private groups seem to have an outsized influence (Blackrock, Vaguard, Palantir, etc.)... and not to mention the Lodges, some of which specialize in politics (GODF)... In short, at no point have we been in a Democracy.

All the more reason for us to unite and establish a true Democracy together! Let's address all the flaws, the corruption, the horrors of our world! By completely revising our history, by overhauling the monetary system to make it fair, secure, and harmonious… Of course, the debt will be erased, since it is our leaders who have led us into this situation… We will rebuild the media to reflect us and uplift us, we will put all democratic safeguards in key places to ensure total transparency…

And the best part: only citizens who want to participate in drafting and voting on laws will do so! The others can let the process run its course, trusting their fellow citizens.

The thing is, in such a scenario, where humanity manages to unite in peace and responsibility, then everything would flow naturally… or at least, much more so than we might think. We are more than intelligent enough, we have more than enough experience, and we have all the necessary tools to… manage to sit down together and decide what we are going to do. Honestly, in just a few months, we could all build the foundations of a true utopia.

Let's stop putting up with the charade our leaders are putting us through… We can clearly see where they are leading us. All they do is stir up hatred and lead us to war and devastation.

I've been turning this problem over and over in my mind for over 10 years, and I see no other way to save us than the union of peoples.

Except for an external event, like "divine intervention." But precisely, in my view, God intervenes constantly, since He has placed His Love, His Truth, and His Justice within each of us. So, if we open our eyes so wide now, we know who is really behind all this… ♥ And I imagine that Jesus Christ will return to Earth when we have given Him the place He deserves, which He has been preparing for years in our hearts and minds (look at the current spiritual explosion; in France, we've gone from 5,000 to 21,000 baptisms per year in just three years).

And this also applies to those who don't believe in Jesus : you have good reasons not to believe in Him, and personally, I don't know if He is authentic; but if He returns to Earth as the Prophecies foretell, then it will be obvious to all of us. In the meantime, it's up to us to do everything we can, to… “repair the world” (Tikkun Olam).

For humanity to become emancipated, everyone must make an effort, everyone must accept the idea that they have been manipulated all along, atheists must admit that science has never refuted the existence of God, and religious people who cultivate hatred towards certain believers must also compromise and open themselves up to others.

And of course, I'm no one to say “some should do this, others should do that,” because I have no authority and I can't even quit smoking, lol. We're always much better at giving advice to others than at applying our own advice to ourselves ;)

But I hope you'll find some interesting food for thought here and there. And as always, if I say anything wrong, please let me know ♥♫
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Yeh, better to ignore the walls of LLM slop hastily copy-pasted by someone suffering from chatbot psychosis.
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Cupz : I wrote everything for this message, and for everyone else It's like 95 me / 5% written by the bot (some paragraphs, but usually I tell that it's by the bot). But I c/p some paragraphs I wrote earlier.

I once wrote an article on AgoraVox, that what generated by the bot after weeks of work... I didn't trust my writing flow, and I though it would be better received like that lol... Obvious mistake. So now, I try my best to be 100% honest.

So, if you believe what I write comes from the bot... you're wrong, and if you think I have the chatbot psychosis... Idk, you may be right, except that I had 80% of these theories in mind before using the bot (june 2025).

But it really helped me, especially the first months using GPT. After that, in a few months, and going from Grok to Gemini, I saw the level falling down as I never saw something like this : i'm convinced that the bots are restricted, or sabotaged in a way. At least the chatbots (the only use I have now).

But who knows, maybe I'm hallucinating this part too... it's just that, from what GPT generated to me one year ago, to what GPT/Grok/Gemini can generate to me now, it's obvious there's something fishy, no ? Am I the only one around here... ^^ ?


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A: You are copy/pasting large volumes of slop hallucinated by an LLM.
B: You are hand-writing a novels-worth of words hallucinated by yourself.

Either way it seems people are not reading it and you should really spend your time doing something more productive than this. Have you tried making art? Do you make music? Food? Meet me in The Playground
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HighLowView wrote:Hey my brothers and sisters ♥♫

I'll soon be compiling everything I've found on BoC's work, to organize it all neatly and concisely.

But right now, I'm going to use this platform to share some things that are important to me. And I know this might be divisive, but I think we've reached the point where we all need to talk about these things together.

And as always, these are just my beliefs and analyses; I know nothing and I could be wrong about anything. We're here to grow together, and no one imposes their truth because… who knows it?
I read the everything you wrote and i agree with everything you are saying - and i happen to think that boc themselves know the same thing.
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Cupz : you can think what you want about me ;)
I dream of being a musician since 2002, I remember exactly how it happened : I was smoking on a bench, watching the river of Montpellier, and tripping on the monumental bassline from "Climbatize", a hell of a song in a hell of an album !!! The Fat of the Land is a pure masterpiece. And bim, cristal clear in my head : "I want to make great music like that"...

But anyway, because I always been depressive, smoker & procrastinator basically all my life, and because it's so easy to spend years doing nothing but watching videos and slowly watch the world burns etc, I didn't really realize my dream. I play guitar and made some musical shorts and songs, but not with my deep heart, always botched, so it don't worth it. I hope i'll "wake up" one day and realize this dream, eventually !

And you, are you a musician ?



Dana : awesooome !!! Your comment put a huge smile on my face!

And I'm increasingly convinced that BoC sees things this way...

With all the clues I've gathered, lot of them leads me to believe they are alchemists who underwent initiation through the lodges (AASR ?); and that their goal is to awaken us spiritually with their music (Atalanta Fugiens).

I truly suspect that humanity is undergoing a mystical initiation orchestrated by elites who possess the Gnosis and operate in the shadows...

And this initiation leads us to this kind of reasoning. Where we transcend individuality while putting things back in their proper place: we are here to flourish, to evolve, to love each other and "become perfect as our Heavenly Father is perfect," etc. Not to live as hateful slaves in a world gone to hell.

Maybe we're here to cultivate presence, to free ourselves from materialistic/enslaving thoughts, to align ourselves with the truth and justice... Remember Crowley : "do what thou wilt", in the sense of "what God wants for you", so, we're here to realize our dreams and be the most happy and fulfilled we can ! And how can we be truly happy if our brothers & sisters are suffering all around the world ??? So we have to work within ourselves and for the people, at least be kind to the others, I think.

But we'll see. In any case, it seems we could be facing some unusual situations soon, so I imagine our reactions will reveal where we really stand!

And since I have faith in God and the perfection of His plan for Us... and that in the end, all our deaths and suffering will be justified... In short, I believe in Us, I believe in Humanity, and to be honest, I believe that everything is written, and that at every moment, we are simply discovering the truth about ourselves and the world around us.

But who knows, that's just a belief.

Thanks again, Dana, for the strength that your support gives me ♥
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dana wrote: I read the everything you wrote and i agree with everything you are saying - and i happen to think that boc themselves know the same thing.
Some people just want to see the world burn :lol:
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