What do you think of the car crash theory?

[noveltywave]

A spiritual person struggling with religious choices is involved in a car crash, slips into some kind of coma, journeys through an inferno in their mind, returns to childhood memories, dies at the end? There are a lot of hints in both the music and the artwork… but then of course some things that don’t make any sense.

[atubofturquoisecustard]

I dig this, maybe this narrative is one of several throughout the album. I feel like there's definitely commentary on dystopia's past & present and how some spiritual force is omnipresent through all this, which maybe the spiritual person you speak of comes into contact with and transcends?

[shelf]

Considering there's no reference to cars or a crash, i don't suspect there's any meaningful connection.

Also, a spiritual person struggling with religious choices? What would that look like, and why would a spiritual person downgrade their philosophical apparatus by following any dogmatic religious choice, when they have their own liberated mind to make such decisions on their own? Your theory seems like a unsubstantiated reach based on practically nothing imo.

Is this your own theory or are you reading it from somewhere?

[turquoise70]

why would a spiritual person downgrade their philosophical apparatus by following any dogmatic religious choice, when they have their own liberated mind to make such decisions on their own?

I wouldn't say I'm big into the theory itself, but let's be real, *this* part happens all the time. I've seen it happen. We are seldom as immune from the lure of dogmatic views as we're comfortable imagining ourselves to be. Like I said... seen it happen.

[Skytree]

In the vacuum of an explicit theme, interpretation is left to each one of us. So in that sense, your interpretation is just as valid as any. In my opinion, this appears to be the intention, quite in the spirit of the source of your avatar image...

[shelf]

Didn't they say it's about the tension and chaos of the modern world when all our traditional worldviews breakdown in the face of new understandings of the world, essentially. I'm certain I read that somewhere around when the album was released.

Again, if the album was about being in a car crash I'm pretty sure we'd see something that reference cars or a crash. "You" can make it about anything you want but there ought to be evidence to support it or you just seem delusional, imo.

try to raise the bar a bit.

[shelf]

"In the vacuum of an explicit theme, interpretation is left to each one of us. So in that sense, your interpretation is just as valid as any."

Critical thinking has left the chat...

[shelf]

why would a spiritual person downgrade their philosophical apparatus by following any dogmatic religious choice, when they have their own liberated mind to make such decisions on their own?

I wouldn't say I'm big into the theory itself, but let's be real, *this* part happens all the time. I've seen it happen. We are seldom as immune from the lure of dogmatic views as we're comfortable imagining ourselves to be. Like I said... seen it happen.

What kind of examples are coming to mind?

Are you actually "spiritual" if you hand over your decisions to religious dogmas? It sounds like the opposite of spirituality to me, it's essentially conformity and submission.

[shelf]

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[Cupz]

Out of the loop, but I didn't really get a specific car crash vibe from it. But it does revolve around death and the thereafter obviously.

That said, ever seen the Cronenberg movie "Crash"? It's absolutely amazing.