Indie Beach Pop

thedisavowed · Post by **thedisavowed** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:04 pm

Call me jaded... but is anyone else here starting to get tired of this indie-beach-pop-brian-wilson-esque fascination-that-indie-seems-moored-in-atm-and-that-Pitchfork-eats-in-high-school-cheerleader-binge-quantities?

I mean, don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Panda Bear and Grizzly Bear as much as anyone, but Fleet Foxes left me wondering so what? (it's on PFork's best new music) and their new Best New Music "The Ruby Suns" is described as 'sunny beach pop' and that is not at ALL encouraging to me personally.

I mean, there's nothing new under the sun, and in some sense all music is a re-exploration of old forms, but there's a strangely (for supposed rock-n-roll) extremely conservative quality to a lot of the music I hear now-a-days. Nobody seems interested in expanding the vocabulary, and indie in particular seems content to revel more in nostalgia and homages than in being 'independent' in any important artistic sense.

As far as indie goes, the Knifes and Joanna Newsoms are far few and in between.

I'm not sure how this complaint applies to the electronic scene these days.. I'll think on this one.

Cupz · Post by **Cupz** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:38 pm

Well sayd...but allas...that's musical taste.

I hate pitchfork for pretending they have "the" taste...if you know what I mean.

We need some new fresh genres

Who's in?

CoBoC · Post by **CoBoC** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:29 pm

Ok lets get started - first we need to invent some genres:

Psych-Gangsta Rap
Emo Classical Orchestra
Bubblegum Death Metal
Folk Techno
Grunge Showtunes (oh wait that's been done I think)
Gothic Ska

thedisavowed · Post by **thedisavowed** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:34 pm

CoBoC wrote:Ok lets get started - first we need to invent some genres:

Bubblegum Death Metal

Been done:

Cupz · Post by **Cupz** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:40 pm

CoBoC wrote:Ok lets get started - first we need to invent some genres:

Psych-Gangsta Rap
Emo Classical Orchestra
Bubblegum Death Metal
Folk Techno
Grunge Showtunes (oh wait that's been done I think)
Gothic Ska

Most of them are already done

I'm not talking about mixing up genres...but an entire new one!

CoBoC · Post by **CoBoC** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:00 pm

It'll be very hard to come up with a brand new genre. These days, with electronic music devices, we can pretty much produce any sound you can think of, so it's only a matter of finding a new way of arranging a song and choosing a set of sounds. I think no matter what you do, new music is going to sound at least a little bit like something else that's been done. Even BoC isn't some kind of totally original genre. (Almost, but not quite)

There may not be much new ground to break. Then again, it keeps happening every once in a while, so I guess we'll see.

Cupz · Post by **Cupz** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:32 pm

CoBoC wrote:There may not be much new ground to break.

I hardly agree. The limit is your soul and creativity.

CoBoC · Post by **CoBoC** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:39 pm

I don't believe in souls, so it's creativity. But for x number of sounds there are only going to be n number of combinations that sound good. It's a huge number, but still ultimately limited.

Cupz · Post by **Cupz** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:50 pm

CoBoC wrote:I don't believe in souls, so it's creativity. But for x number of sounds there are only going to be n number of combinations that sound good. It's a huge number, but still ultimately limited.

que? We can always make new sounds. We will alway's find out new things, new instruments and new ways of playing. I strongly believe music is unlimited.

CoBoC · Post by **CoBoC** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:55 pm

I'm glad! I know I'll be sad if absolutely eveyone runs out of new music ideas! Keep going!

nlogax · Post by **nlogax** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:52 pm

hehehe i've got a few ideas why harmonizing is back in style; mainly because if you can't really play an instrument, you might as well just churn some melodies with your throat.

TD: have you listened to The Brother Kite? i think they were doing this kind of thing way before Panda Bear & Grizzly Bear so I can't really knock them, check them out!

747Music · Post by **747Music** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:31 am

thedisavowed wrote:
CoBoC wrote:Ok lets get started - first we need to invent some genres:

Bubblegum Death Metal
Been done:

this vid reminds me a little of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2PzagXsD0Y
and this especially: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHUFbnMX ... re=related

...I hate cannibal corpse btw.

but hey, I do like 'Broken Social Scene', check out their album 'Feels Good Lost'.

saturdayindex · Post by **saturdayindex** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:45 am

Softcore bouncing-ball stenographic hip-trop.

Infinite E · Post by **Infinite E** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:18 am

it feels like theres a trend generally towards music being unashamedly 'poppy' in a way that a few years ago would have been considered naff, in all kinds of genres.

YELLOW · Post by **YELLOW** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:20 pm

yeah broken social scene is great...but i wouldnt consider them beach pop

747Music · Post by **747Music** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:33 pm

YELLOW wrote:yeah broken social scene is great...but i wouldnt consider them beach pop

true

milieu · Post by **milieu** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:31 pm

747Music wrote:
...I will fuck motherfuckers up when listening to cannibal corpse btw.

fixt

747Music · Post by **747Music** » Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:06 pm

milieu wrote:
747Music wrote:
...I will fuck motherfuckers up when listening to cannibal corpse btw.

fixt

lol

CoBoC · Post by **CoBoC** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:30 pm

saturdayindex wrote:Softcore bouncing-ball stenographic hip-trop.

lol, hip-trop.

Can "BoC-esque" be a genre? I know they fit into a few genres, but nobody else really does what they do. (Some come close though, and then I beleive we actually have reffered to some as "BoC-esque") Or we could come up with a new name for it. "Sandisonic", "Hermit-pop", ???