BOC and their fans

The Friendly Stranger · Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:19 am

I ask this in order to trigger a discussion, not to piss anyone off or target anyone.

Why do so many people feel BOC owe them something? People comment on how there's been no news and no releases and all this stuff but should BOC have to keep us updated?

Discuss.

Joebot Kill · Post by **Joebot Kill** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:55 am

The Friendly Stranger wrote:I ask this in order to trigger a discussion, not to piss anyone off or target anyone.

Why do so many people feel BOC owe them something? People comment on how there's been no news and no releases and all this stuff but should BOC have to keep us updated?

Discuss.

I think they've made some great music! hmmmmm... I wonder if they will ever release any more of it?

hungry_manweaselbeast · Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:37 am

no one should have to play the industry game and they've made it clear they don't, simple really

always keen to hear more whatever the weather

turquoise70 · Post by **turquoise70** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:39 pm

I think it's the result of a mindset that some people have regarding bands they personally like a great deal. It seems like they believe that a band and its audience are necessarily involved in a two-way relationship of a certain type, that exists whether the band or the audience acknowledge it or not.

I personally don't feel like BoC owe me or their other fans anything - no news, no new album, no studio update. If they want to disappear completely, and let's remember who these guys are, please, they certainly can and will. They clearly have an amicable attitude towards their fans, despite having been given many reasons not to as their stuff got leaked and released, but I don't think they make music for the fans ultimately, ultimately I would guess they make it for its own sake and for the sake of exercising their own artistic livelihoods. And I would guess that BoC don't share the notion that some of their more energetic fans have, that their music is a community good so amazing and so important that not to proliferate it year after year is to do their fans a disservice or insult them. From what little I know of their attitudes from reading interviews, my guess is they would be more like, "It's art, it's not irreplaceable, make your own, it's fun"

harpoon dodger · Post by **harpoon dodger** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:31 pm

I don't feel that they owe me shit. The record will get here when it gets here..its not like there's no other good music to listen to in the world. And when it gets here, I know we'll all enjoy it..patience is a virtue.

Retrodreaming · Post by **Retrodreaming** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:33 pm

harpoon dodger wrote:I don't feel that they owe me shit. The record will get here when it gets here..its not like there's no other good music to listen to in the world. And when it gets here, I know we'll all enjoy it..patience is a virtue.

Well said man............

88marquis · Post by **88marquis** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:17 pm

it'd be cool if they put out something or made an appearance, only because they have me curious though - i love their music, i can listen to it all over and over again and still love it, i don't expect them to do anything for anyone but themselves.

Although, a new album would be prime, and you know we would all shit bricks when and if this happens =)

I guess what i mean is, many people hope for things, and nothing is wrong with that - its when you expect something that makes it entirely different.

john fonda · Post by **john fonda** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:22 pm

a genuine interest and hoping for an update is not expectant,it is just curiousity,it aint just the album,their interviews are fucking super

jakestott · Post by **jakestott** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:06 pm

harpoon dodger wrote:I don't feel that they owe me shit. The record will get here when it gets here..its not like there's no other good music to listen to in the world. And when it gets here, I know we'll all enjoy it..patience is a virtue.

Totally with you on that.

CoBoC · Post by **CoBoC** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:21 pm

Nonsense thread based on an assumption.

Mexicola · Post by **Mexicola** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:39 pm

CoBoC wrote:Nonsense thread based on an assumption.

A nonsense? Really? On the contrary, it seems like a perfectly good question/thread, judging by the amount of discussion on this site about the lack of BOC news. I think it's a reasonable question and it seems to have been raised pretty eloquently and respectfully.

The Friendly Stranger · Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:02 pm

CoBoC wrote:Nonsense thread based on an assumption.

Errr...no. You must have noticed the whining about the lack of news surely from certain parties, looks like I'm not alone in that view either.

turquoise70 wrote:I think it's the result of a mindset that some people have regarding bands they personally like a great deal. It seems like they believe that a band and its audience are necessarily involved in a two-way relationship of a certain type, that exists whether the band or the audience acknowledge it or not.

I personally don't feel like BoC owe me or their other fans anything - no news, no new album, no studio update. If they want to disappear completely, and let's remember who these guys are, please, they certainly can and will. They clearly have an amicable attitude towards their fans, despite having been given many reasons not to as their stuff got leaked and released, but I don't think they make music for the fans ultimately, ultimately I would guess they make it for its own sake and for the sake of exercising their own artistic livelihoods. And I would guess that BoC don't share the notion that some of their more energetic fans have, that their music is a community good so amazing and so important that not to proliferate it year after year is to do their fans a disservice or insult them. From what little I know of their attitudes from reading interviews, my guess is they would be more like, "It's art, it's not irreplaceable, make your own, it's fun"

23degreesdream · Post by **23degreesdream** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:45 pm

The Friendly Stranger wrote:I ask this in order to trigger a discussion, not to piss anyone off or target anyone.

Why do so many people feel BOC owe them something? People comment on how there's been no news and no releases and all this stuff but should BOC have to keep us updated?

Discuss.

They don't owe us a thing. They don't owe fans updates, live shows, anything like that.

i just think it'd be nice now and again. Not compulsory, just nice. What's the matter BoC? you don't call, you don't write... starting to think this relationship is all one-way traffic

747Music · Post by **747Music** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:27 pm

Retrodreaming wrote:
harpoon dodger wrote:I don't feel that they owe me shit. The record will get here when it gets here..its not like there's no other good music to listen to in the world. And when it gets here, I know we'll all enjoy it..patience is a virtue.
Well said man............

indeed.

saturdayindex · Post by **saturdayindex** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:10 pm

I agree with CoBoC. Nonsense thread. Bloody waste of time all this obsessing and speculation.

turquoise70 · Post by **turquoise70** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:05 pm

saturdayindex wrote:I agree with CoBoC. Nonsense thread. Bloody waste of time all this obsessing and speculation.

I believe you meant to post in this thread

saturdayindex · Post by **saturdayindex** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:43 pm

turquoise70 wrote:
saturdayindex wrote:I agree with CoBoC. Nonsense thread. Bloody waste of time all this obsessing and speculation.
I believe you meant to post in this thread

That and about 20 other similar threads.

turquoise70 · Post by **turquoise70** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:23 pm

very well

THREAD CANCELLED

EVERYONE GO HOME.

what shall we do instead, SI?

The Friendly Stranger · Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:37 pm

saturdayindex wrote:
turquoise70 wrote:
saturdayindex wrote:I agree with CoBoC. Nonsense thread. Bloody waste of time all this obsessing and speculation.
I believe you meant to post in this thread
That and about 20 other similar threads.

I swear you're missing the point of this thread...

saturdayindex · Post by **saturdayindex** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:16 am

turquoise70 wrote:very well

THREAD CANCELLED

EVERYONE GO HOME.

what shall we do instead, SI?

Keep on speculating.. I am only suggesting more productive alternatives...

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