Bibio raves about BOC

[tontonz]

But isn't that the purpose of technology? To simplify and quicken processes so that we may be more efficient with our time?

This is rhetorical obviously, but it sums up all technological advances and inventions. Soon we will all be watching tv, killing mean people, and baking a pizza in split seconds time. Or has it already happened?...

Sure I totally agree, but tech is meant to help speed up work, or make difficult tasks less stressful or dangerous. But it's filtering into all aspects of life. Again i LOVE tech, don't get me wrong. But it is having an effect on the way we do things.

Example: There are so many car accidents here in LA due to cell phones. I won't use my phone in my car. But its great to have with me if I have car trouble or get into an accident.

To me, some things are better savored.

You are totally correct. I hadn't meant to harp on you, just trying to justify what you were saying. But taking in experiences with much more time makes that memory much more important. It's sorta funny that we're even discussing this because I've been reading up on brain functioning and doo-daddy's all night due to boredom. This one in particular - http://health.howstuffworks.com/10-ways ... memory.htm

All of the methods mentioned in the article are tied to a basic action - the more you get the brain involved via sensory information, the more capable it becomes.

Significance is beauty.

[dave_from_2001]

I don't feel any pressure playing a computer. It is a real experience, but it lacks something fundamental. Pressure in the sense of wielding a stick and banging it against something. It does not vibrate. There is less tactile feedback.

Editing on the other hand, is just a puzzle, and a computer is just fine to phone in.

[Skytree]

I don't feel any pressure playing a computer. It is a real experience, but it lacks something fundamental. Pressure in the sense of wielding a stick and banging it against something. It does not vibrate. There is less tactile feedback.

Editing on the other hand, is just a puzzle, and a computer is just fine to phone in.

To that end, I wholly recommend this:



...and this...

[oscillik]

I don't feel any pressure playing a computer. It is a real experience, but it lacks something fundamental. Pressure in the sense of wielding a stick and banging it against something. It does not vibrate. There is less tactile feedback.

Editing on the other hand, is just a puzzle, and a computer is just fine to phone in.

To that end, I wholly recommend this:



...and this...

MIDI controllers are ok, but they can only give you so much.

the music i make on a computer using MIDI controllers that have the same human controller interface regardless of what softsynth i'm using is completely different from the kind of music i would make on my hardware, that had a different interface for each instrument.

even the difference between clicking on a virtual representation and a real instrument is completely astounding. i could sit for hours with my 808, just making beats. i cannot do the same with a virtual 808.

there is something to be said for MIDI controllers. but they're not the perfect solution. for me, the best music comes from interacting with various different interfaces and ways of working.

having said that, i do still desperately want a padKONTROL

[streamrunner]

ha this topic has morphed into something different than the original post.

[dave_from_2001]

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... D=59834941

OLD THUNDER BUTTON


I'll admit I wanted to try one of those after watching this Skytree.

[Skytree]

I love the PadKontrol, but you're absolutely right on the hardware/controller issue...it's no substitute for an MPC. That said, it's a hell of a lot cheaper, USB-powered, easily fits into a laptop bag, and has pads that are on par (if not even a bit better) than those on the newer MPCs. It's a piece of kit I use as a middle ground...if I'm going to use the computer, I prefer to do it in the most intuitive, physical way I can...good controllers facilitate that.

[turquoise70]

for me, physical does not equal intuitive. i can't keep a beat with my hands to save my life. i can't multitask with my hands either. (i also can't catch, throw, or pass a ball of any shape or variety). any activity that requires physical coordination and rhythm is total agony for me.

this is why i make ELECTRONIC MUSIC. i love music, but i'm a HUGE NERD with NO MOTOR SKILLS. why am i the only one here who seems to feel that way?

[Skytree]

Wisp and Aphex go about it the same way, and they've done alright, to put it mildly...chin up!

Personally, I've loved the physical aspect of music since before I could speak, and that's why I make the music I do. We all have our own way.

[isawdrones]

for me, physical does not equal intuitive. i can't keep a beat with my hands to save my life. i can't multitask with my hands either. (i also can't catch, throw, or pass a ball of any shape or variety). any activity that requires physical coordination and rhythm is total agony for me.

this is why i make ELECTRONIC MUSIC. i love music, but i'm a HUGE NERD with NO MOTOR SKILLS. why am i the only one here who seems to feel that way?

I don't know, I couldn't imagine doing it all inside a graphic display, and its not like people do that commonly in electronic music, especially when it comes to writing melody. Not saying its bad or good, I just don't believe your that uncoordinated . Hardware just lets the soul come through. There's no hesitation or divide, more connection if you will. IMO hardware with guts is even better. Like the sound of a zip drive turning on when I use to power up my mpc or the little glitching sound that one of my synths makes when it turns on, or real hiss, or real oscillators or real cables and my shitty mixer, little warm things I like. Actualization over emulation.

I have started to use the computer as the center of my little studio and have sold my mpc and a synth for software sequencers and recently soft synths and while many possibilites are gained, something is destroyed in that process which prevents me from going all software. It like when Brian Eno says "what you need are less options that are more useful".

[the letter p]

"C'est fini la comédie"

[Skytree]

Hahah...McCaughey's resignation is some of the best news of the past week.

The only problem with the ReMote line is that there's no version larger than two octaves, which isn't nearly enough for any self-respecting melody, IMO.

...and just to bring this back on topic, signing Bibio is one of the best decisions Warp's made in a long time, but I'm still surprised that he gushes about Boards almost more than we do! Someone should send the guy a Twoism invite.

[the letter p]

"C'est fini la comédie"

[Skytree]

Hahah...McCaughey's resignation is some of the best news of the past week.

The only problem with the ReMote line is that there's no version larger than two octaves, which isn't nearly enough for any self-respecting melody, IMO.

...and just to bring this back on topic, signing Bibio is one of the best decisions Warp's made in a long time, but I'm still surprised that he gushes about Boards almost more than we do! Someone should send the guy a Twoism invite.

They make a 49 and 61 key model.

Bibio = Brother

Ah, do they? Lovely! Hadn't seen one on their site or at the gear shop...will have to poke around for one.

...and again, no...Bibio =/ BoC brother. Trust.