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Beautiful music

Each album seems to stand on its own with its own theme/overarching style. Even though similarities can be noticed, each album has always had its own distinct sound to me. The new one, as TCH had explored prominent guitar work, seems to touch on the "darker" sociopolitical themes (e.g. Cold War) and music (e.g. Tangerine Dream/John Carpenter soundtracks, etc.) of the mid-70s and 80s.

That is not to say that I think that is all there is to the album. None of their releases are ever that superficial. In the end, the only thing I could ever expect is a BoC album. The only way that I would be disappointed is if the album sounded like the brothers were treading back onto older sounds to pander, or weren't staying true to where their heads are currently at musically. I think you can tell when music isn't honest. I've only this from the band on every release. Which is a big part of why I love their music so much.

Also: I am way too excited for the album and became a fan after a friend sent me The Campfire Headphase, as well. I'm not sure if that being the introductory album leads people to be more disappointed or not. But it is odd when people obsess over "Dayvan Cowboy" when there are so many wonderful songs. Or when people seem to feel entitled to more of the same music when they already have those records. I don't see the band going the slippery slope of bands lost their purity and relevance over a career.

vanlorne wrote:While I have liked everything I have heard and prefer a darker sound i have to say that some of my favorite boc tracks are EYDIAB, Kid for today, sixtyniner, left side drive, IABPOITC, Turquoise hexagon sun. I have a very strong inclination that there are no songs like those on this new album. I think that the tracks I mentioned have a certain similarity in the feel and I doubt there is anything like that based off of what I have read and heard thus far.

Yup, that's pretty much how I feel. Those are some of my favorite tracks, too (I'd also throw '84 Pontiac Dream in there). When I hear those tracks, I hear fantastic compositions doubled with fantastic programming and production. The amount of time and thought that went into a lot of those tracks would probably boggle the mind. There's just so many layers and hidden stuff thrown in there that it's hard to believe that it wasn't worked on for an extended period of time.

However, with all the new stuff I've heard (6 tracks now), I just don't feel that way or hear the complexities that would lead me to believe that the tracks were cared for as much. As someone who knows a lot about recording myself (I went to school for it and have enjoyed making experimental music in my spare time), I actually find it quite feasible that some of these tracks could have created and recorded in a single afternoon. The compositions seem uninspired, lazy and ultimately unfinished. In my mind, it would be like visiting BoC in the studio, and them saying "Here's a bunch of ideas that we're kicking around right now but don't know what to do with it/where to take it."

Myself, I do like the sound of Reach For The Dead. But the actual track, or the composition rather, is much too short. There's the long drawn-out beat + drone intro that sounds like something that could have been on Geogaddi, then it builds up and eventually becomes something mildly lovely... but then it quickly cuts out and then that's it! Where are the chord progressions and sound variations? Where are the samples? But more importantly, where are the layers? If RFTD had been even just one minute longer with a slightly shorter intro, more sound variation and layers, it could have been a classic to me and maybe meshed well with their older stuff. But right now, it just seems too minimal and not quite up to the standards that, to me... Boards of Canada are most well-known and loved for. And after these many years of waiting and speculating, this just fails to impress or astoud me like previous works. Obviously, I haven't heard the whole record from start to finish yet (cheers to those who were able to do that in the desert), but after being 6 tracks in and not being impressed or "feeling nostalgic" or anything... that's not a very good sign (to me anyway). Maybe it'll grow on me, but I regretfully have to say that I doubt it, my standards for electronic music are set pretty high - funny enough, partly because of BoC. That's why this has been a disappointment to me, so far. Peace

"Expecting" and "Experiencing" are two different things.

Everyone needs to put away there preponderances and wait for it to come out before they actually judge a couple rough recordings at a listening party.

I'm expecting it to be a wonderful musical journey from one of my biggest influences! The "poor quality recordings" mean nothing to me - I'm not about to judge the entire record based on a few tracks recorded on a phone. They were still AWESOME, but I have faith that this album is gonna go down in the books as a keeper.

Weekend_Warrior wrote:

vanlorne wrote:While I have liked everything I have heard and prefer a darker sound i have to say that some of my favorite boc tracks are EYDIAB, Kid for today, sixtyniner, left side drive, IABPOITC, Turquoise hexagon sun. I have a very strong inclination that there are no songs like those on this new album. I think that the tracks I mentioned have a certain similarity in the feel and I doubt there is anything like that based off of what I have read and heard thus far.

Yup, that's pretty much how I feel. Those are some of my favorite tracks, too (I'd also throw '84 Pontiac Dream in there). When I hear those tracks, I hear fantastic compositions doubled with fantastic programming and production. The amount of time and thought that went into a lot of those tracks would probably boggle the mind. There's just so many layers and hidden stuff thrown in there that it's hard to believe that it wasn't worked on for an extended period of time.

However, with all the new stuff I've heard (6 tracks now), I just don't feel that way or hear the complexities that would lead me to believe that the tracks were cared for as much. As someone who knows a lot about recording myself (I went to school for it and have enjoyed making experimental music in my spare time), I actually find it quite feasible that some of these tracks could have created and recorded in a single afternoon. The compositions seem uninspired, lazy and ultimately unfinished. In my mind, it would be like visiting BoC in the studio, and them saying "Here's a bunch of ideas that we're kicking around right now but don't know what to do with it/where to take it."

Myself, I do like the sound of Reach For The Dead. But the actual track, or the composition rather, is much too short. There's the long drawn-out beat + drone intro that sounds like something that could have been on Geogaddi, then it builds up and eventually becomes something mildly lovely... but then it quickly cuts out and then that's it! Where are the chord progressions and sound variations? Where are the samples? But more importantly, where are the layers? If RFTD had been even just one minute longer with a slightly shorter intro, more sound variation and layers, it could have been a classic to me and maybe meshed well with their older stuff. But right now, it just seems too minimal and not quite up to the standards that, to me... Boards of Canada are most well-known and loved for. And after these many years of waiting and speculating, this just fails to impress or astoud me like previous works. Obviously, I haven't heard the whole record from start to finish yet (cheers to those who were able to do that in the desert), but after being 6 tracks in and not being impressed or "feeling nostalgic" or anything... that's not a very good sign (to me anyway). Maybe it'll grow on me, but I regretfully have to say that I doubt it, my standards for electronic music are set pretty high - funny enough, partly because of BoC. That's why this has been a disappointment to me, so far. Peace

For somebody who studied music at school, you don't seem to be taking the fact that you've heard all these songs (except RFTD) through the lowest quality mediums into account as much as you should. Also, from what I've heard from those who have actually listened to the entire album, this is the most complex, layered album they have made to date. So don't write it off just yet.

Weekend_Warrior wrote:

vanlorne wrote:While I have liked everything I have heard and prefer a darker sound i have to say that some of my favorite boc tracks are EYDIAB, Kid for today, sixtyniner, left side drive, IABPOITC, Turquoise hexagon sun. I have a very strong inclination that there are no songs like those on this new album. I think that the tracks I mentioned have a certain similarity in the feel and I doubt there is anything like that based off of what I have read and heard thus far.

Yup, that's pretty much how I feel. Those are some of my favorite tracks, too (I'd also throw '84 Pontiac Dream in there). When I hear those tracks, I hear fantastic compositions doubled with fantastic programming and production. The amount of time and thought that went into a lot of those tracks would probably boggle the mind. There's just so many layers and hidden stuff thrown in there that it's hard to believe that it wasn't worked on for an extended period of time.

However, with all the new stuff I've heard (6 tracks now), I just don't feel that way or hear the complexities that would lead me to believe that the tracks were cared for as much. As someone who knows a lot about recording myself (I went to school for it and have enjoyed making experimental music in my spare time), I actually find it quite feasible that some of these tracks could have created and recorded in a single afternoon. The compositions seem uninspired, lazy and ultimately unfinished. In my mind, it would be like visiting BoC in the studio, and them saying "Here's a bunch of ideas that we're kicking around right now but don't know what to do with it/where to take it."

Myself, I do like the sound of Reach For The Dead. But the actual track, or the composition rather, is much too short. There's the long drawn-out beat + drone intro that sounds like something that could have been on Geogaddi, then it builds up and eventually becomes something mildly lovely... but then it quickly cuts out and then that's it! Where are the chord progressions and sound variations? Where are the samples? But more importantly, where are the layers? If RFTD had been even just one minute longer with a slightly shorter intro, more sound variation and layers, it could have been a classic to me and maybe meshed well with their older stuff. But right now, it just seems too minimal and not quite up to the standards that, to me... Boards of Canada are most well-known and loved for. And after these many years of waiting and speculating, this just fails to impress or astoud me like previous works. Obviously, I haven't heard the whole record from start to finish yet (cheers to those who were able to do that in the desert), but after being 6 tracks in and not being impressed or "feeling nostalgic" or anything... that's not a very good sign (to me anyway). Maybe it'll grow on me, but I regretfully have to say that I doubt it, my standards for electronic music are set pretty high - funny enough, partly because of BoC. That's why this has been a disappointment to me, so far. Peace

What you have heard 6 full quality songs is that what you are saying and not those that are floating around from the listening parties and Detroit festival? Because if it is the latter I am dumbfounded you have made a decision with your production knowledge as you state, I record too like a lot of people these days and what I have heard to date sounds great and more like carpenter/goblin/tangerine dream, basically the forefathers of electronic music, I applaud them for making each album sound different,plus ill make my judgement on the way it was meant to be heard with all the subtle undertones I have yet to hear.

In_The_Annexe wrote:"Expecting" and "Experiencing" are two different things.

Everyone needs to put away there preponderances and wait for it to come out before they actually judge a couple rough recordings at a listening party.

This.

Isn't it just as plausible to not like a track from a poor recording, just as much as it is to like or approve it?

Weekend_Warrior wrote:Isn't it just as plausible to not like a track from a poor recording, just as much as it is to like or approve it?

Well if I was you I wouldn't buy the album, if you have unlucky.

Weekend_Warrior wrote:

vanlorne wrote:While I have liked everything I have heard and prefer a darker sound i have to say that some of my favorite boc tracks are EYDIAB, Kid for today, sixtyniner, left side drive, IABPOITC, Turquoise hexagon sun. I have a very strong inclination that there are no songs like those on this new album. I think that the tracks I mentioned have a certain similarity in the feel and I doubt there is anything like that based off of what I have read and heard thus far.

Yup, that's pretty much how I feel. Those are some of my favorite tracks, too (I'd also throw '84 Pontiac Dream in there). When I hear those tracks, I hear fantastic compositions doubled with fantastic programming and production. The amount of time and thought that went into a lot of those tracks would probably boggle the mind. There's just so many layers and hidden stuff thrown in there that it's hard to believe that it wasn't worked on for an extended period of time.

However, with all the new stuff I've heard (6 tracks now), I just don't feel that way or hear the complexities that would lead me to believe that the tracks were cared for as much. As someone who knows a lot about recording myself (I went to school for it and have enjoyed making experimental music in my spare time), I actually find it quite feasible that some of these tracks could have created and recorded in a single afternoon. The compositions seem uninspired, lazy and ultimately unfinished. In my mind, it would be like visiting BoC in the studio, and them saying "Here's a bunch of ideas that we're kicking around right now but don't know what to do with it/where to take it."

Myself, I do like the sound of Reach For The Dead. But the actual track, or the composition rather, is much too short. There's the long drawn-out beat + drone intro that sounds like something that could have been on Geogaddi, then it builds up and eventually becomes something mildly lovely... but then it quickly cuts out and then that's it! Where are the chord progressions and sound variations? Where are the samples? But more importantly, where are the layers? If RFTD had been even just one minute longer with a slightly shorter intro, more sound variation and layers, it could have been a classic to me and maybe meshed well with their older stuff. But right now, it just seems too minimal and not quite up to the standards that, to me... Boards of Canada are most well-known and loved for. And after these many years of waiting and speculating, this just fails to impress or astoud me like previous works. Obviously, I haven't heard the whole record from start to finish yet (cheers to those who were able to do that in the desert), but after being 6 tracks in and not being impressed or "feeling nostalgic" or anything... that's not a very good sign (to me anyway). Maybe it'll grow on me, but I regretfully have to say that I doubt it, my standards for electronic music are set pretty high - funny enough, partly because of BoC. That's why this has been a disappointment to me, so far. Peace

BoC has had very a large impact on my life as a teenager to an almost 30 year old adult. Geogaddi and TCH has been the soundtrack to much of my life since it was released. I love every track on each, especially Macquarie Ridge from TCH.

I have no expectations other than to see what impact it will have on my life for the next few years. I use music to take me places and BoC's music (among many others) has always done this. It has reminded me or made me imagine very specific things. I'm excited to see how I will work this album into my subconscious.

A good album?

I don't expect it to cure AIDS or anything.

I expect it will induce a rather horrific prolapse judging from what I heard. Can any anybody who was at the listening party confirm this please?

sounds daft but people who love BoC will love this. i did notice one girl get up and leave during Jacquard Causeway, and i don't think she came back. casual listeners may not make it past that one.

Spaced wrote:sounds daft but people who love BoC will love this. i did notice one girl get up and leave during Jacquard Causeway, and i don't think she came back. casual listeners may not make it past that one.

Thanks doesn't sound daft at all, nothing really more needs to be said, can't wait for the experience you lucky guys had.

I got a laugh out of the people there trying to head-bob and find some kind of danceability in the song. They were just kinda trying, and then most just stopped lol.

Weekend_Warrior wrote:If RFTD had been even just one minute longer with a slightly shorter intro, more sound variation and layers, it could have been a classic to me

Interesting thread about subjectivity in music thread here.

NorthcutTAmnestY wrote:I got a laugh out of the people there trying to head-bob and find some kind of danceability in the song. They were just kinda trying, and then most just stopped lol.

Haha, it is pretty awkward to watch. I mean, you can imagine just sitting there listening to this amazing music in some hot ass weather, sweat dripping down the crack of your ass, your mouth dry as the dirt that you're sitting on, skin all beat red, but some how ya just listen to the music and love every minute and everything else can take a flying leap. Must have been amazing to say the least. But yeah, the slight head bobbing was funny.

WeHadNormality wrote:

Weekend_Warrior wrote:If RFTD had been even just one minute longer with a slightly shorter intro, more sound variation and layers, it could have been a classic to me

Interesting thread about subjectivity in music thread here.

I kinda agree with that guy. RFTD is definitely my least favorite of the tracks I have heard, but it is still pretty great to me.

And polar sky, I would say. I wish I could have made it out there.