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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:42 pm
by polar sky
Mexicola wrote:
Kinski wrote:that's it. i'm moving to watmm.


Why would you ever want to do that?!? :lol:


Because he's too cool for Twoism, duh!

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:26 am
by Spine
Yellow Records wrote:I would do it for you! I just don't know how to convert the album art like Spine did...amazing work Spine!


polar sky wrote:But I like Spines better! It looks old, like something they would have given out.


Thanks guys :) If you're using Photoshop just change the mode to grayscale and then bitmap, using halftone screen as the method. The typeface I used is called Rezland and it's the closest I could find that was free and actually looked like the original. I mostly just tried to copy the way the sleeve looked from the BoC Maxima photos taken by dealer.

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:19 am
by Yellow Records
Spine wrote:
Yellow Records wrote:I would do it for you! I just don't know how to convert the album art like Spine did...amazing work Spine!


polar sky wrote:But I like Spines better! It looks old, like something they would have given out.


Thanks guys :) If you're using Photoshop just change the mode to grayscale and then bitmap, using halftone screen as the method. The typeface I used is called Rezland and it's the closest I could find that was free and actually looked like the original. I mostly just tried to copy the way the sleeve looked from the BoC Maxima photos taken by dealer.


Well I really like how it looks, so I'm going to copy you! :)

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:49 am
by krs
So who wants to make me some tapes?! :lol:

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:46 am
by Yellow Records
krs wrote:So who wants to make me some tapes?! :lol:


I'll do it, it'll take me a long while, but it'll get done eventually! xD

I still dont know how to handle shipping and payment stuff...

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:50 am
by Kinski
polar sky wrote:
Mexicola wrote:
Kinski wrote:that's it. i'm moving to watmm.


Why would you ever want to do that?!? :lol:


Because he's too cool for Twoism, duh!


this x100

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:34 pm
by polar sky
Kinski wrote:
polar sky wrote:
Mexicola wrote:
Kinski wrote:that's it. i'm moving to watmm.


Why would you ever want to do that?!? :lol:


Because he's too cool for Twoism, duh!


this x100


this x1000!

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:20 pm
by theoktitus
Yellow Records wrote:
krs wrote:So who wants to make me some tapes?! :lol:


I'll do it, it'll take me a long while, but it'll get done eventually! xD

I still dont know how to handle shipping and payment stuff...



Um, me too! Me too!!!

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:54 pm
by The Voice of Reason
You guys are funny.
You are not really getting the effect of the stuff actually getting recorded to tape.
It was mixed and mastered digitally, to fit onto that standard. And is recorded as hot as can be, as thats the new shitty standard.

So you are effectively putting a digital recording on tape just for tape hiss.
So funny.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:31 am
by kennychiwa147
you forgot that it's tape hiss on top of the greatest electronic music ever made.
the only tape hiss worth listening to. :wink:

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:29 am
by polar sky
The Voice of Reason wrote:You guys are funny.
You are not really getting the effect of the stuff actually getting recorded to tape.
It was mixed and mastered digitally, to fit onto that standard. And is recorded as hot as can be, as thats the new shitty standard.

So you are effectively putting a digital recording on tape just for tape hiss.
So funny.


I think you're missunderstanding. We're not trying to get the original tape 'reel to reel' studio sound. Just simply enjoying the sound of it recorded to a cassette tape from the original CD or Vinyl. I remember getting tapes from friends and my older brothers before CDRs came out and remember the muted recorded to cassette sound. It's just for fun.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:30 am
by Yellow Records
polar sky wrote:
The Voice of Reason wrote:You guys are funny.
You are not really getting the effect of the stuff actually getting recorded to tape.
It was mixed and mastered digitally, to fit onto that standard. And is recorded as hot as can be, as thats the new shitty standard.

So you are effectively putting a digital recording on tape just for tape hiss.
So funny.


I think you're missunderstanding. We're not trying to get the original tape 'reel to reel' studio sound. Just simply enjoying the sound of it recorded to a cassette tape from the original CD or Vinyl. I remember getting tapes from friends and my older brothers before CDRs came out and remember the muted recorded to cassette sound. It's just for fun.


Thank you, Polar Sky. :mrgreen:

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:14 am
by The Voice of Reason
polar sky wrote:
The Voice of Reason wrote:You guys are funny.
You are not really getting the effect of the stuff actually getting recorded to tape.
It was mixed and mastered digitally, to fit onto that standard. And is recorded as hot as can be, as thats the new shitty standard.

So you are effectively putting a digital recording on tape just for tape hiss.
So funny.


I think you're missunderstanding. We're not trying to get the original tape 'reel to reel' studio sound. Just simply enjoying the sound of it recorded to a cassette tape from the original CD or Vinyl. I remember getting tapes from friends and my older brothers before CDRs came out and remember the muted recorded to cassette sound. It's just for fun.


Yes I agree with you 100%. BUT, I go back to my original train of thought...
"Back in the day" when you listened to comps your friends would make you on cassette were either compiled with tracks from cassettes or vinyl, WHICH are mastered MUCH more differently than they are today. And what you are enjoying is more space and headroom that was mixed into the master for that was how it was done before all this limiting shit came out.

You were listening to more hand crafted mixes rather than super saturated loud mixes that come out today. So again you are putting a digital recording on tape for 'tape noise'.
Youre not getting that nice warmth that was recorded and mixed into the music they way it was done in the past. And this is clearly visible when you look at a recording from 1980 and a recording from 1998. Waves with peak and valleys VS one massive block of whats supposed to be a wave but looks like a straight line drawn with a magnum graff marker.

I wish it would go back to the better headroom days. With the amps and power everyone now has at home....you can just turn it up to be louder. FUCK HIP HOP from 1996 onward. It was the cause of it all. DMX you suck.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:15 am
by Cryabetes
I'd put forth the argument that until the "standard playback medium" changes from shit ipod earbuds and laptop speakers, there's not really any option of non-competition in the loudness war. It's doable for a vinyl master but not so much for CD.

That said, offering 'greater dynamic variance' alternate mixes is something that my band is planning on doing. Also crossfadeless versions so it doesn't mess with mixtapes.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:33 am
by Yellow Records
The Voice of Reason wrote:
polar sky wrote:
The Voice of Reason wrote:You guys are funny.
You are not really getting the effect of the stuff actually getting recorded to tape.
It was mixed and mastered digitally, to fit onto that standard. And is recorded as hot as can be, as thats the new shitty standard.

So you are effectively putting a digital recording on tape just for tape hiss.
So funny.


I think you're missunderstanding. We're not trying to get the original tape 'reel to reel' studio sound. Just simply enjoying the sound of it recorded to a cassette tape from the original CD or Vinyl. I remember getting tapes from friends and my older brothers before CDRs came out and remember the muted recorded to cassette sound. It's just for fun.


Yes I agree with you 100%. BUT, I go back to my original train of thought...
"Back in the day" when you listened to comps your friends would make you on cassette were either compiled with tracks from cassettes or vinyl, WHICH are mastered MUCH more differently than they are today. And what you are enjoying is more space and headroom that was mixed into the master for that was how it was done before all this limiting shit came out.

You were listening to more hand crafted mixes rather than super saturated loud mixes that come out today. So again you are putting a digital recording on tape for 'tape noise'.
Youre not getting that nice warmth that was recorded and mixed into the music they way it was done in the past.


So what?

It brings back memories.

Go away.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:49 am
by Synthetrix
This thread reminds me of The Tape Beatles' song where the guy is calling the record store asking if they carry Beatles albums on tape.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:01 am
by The Voice of Reason
Yellow Records wrote:So what?

It brings back memories.

Go away.


Jesus, ha ha ha ha.
No wonder Kinski is off to WATMM. You're bringing back memories with contemporary music? :) Odd.
Memories of a few years ago? When the music that's triggering the memories of cassette days never came out on tape? [Headphase] Interesting.

Side question...were you born while tape was still being sold in the stores, or are you just trying to latch on to false nostalgia? Just wondering. This part is not meant as a jab.

Synthetrix wrote:This thread reminds me of The Tape Beatles' song where the guy is calling the record store asking if they carry Beatles albums on tape.

EBAY...It's all there. Someone help that guy.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:05 am
by Kinski
i'm taking it further, here's mhrtc, geogaddi and twoism

Image

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:47 am
by Synthetrix
Kinski wrote:i'm taking it further, here's mhrtc, geogaddi and twoism

Image


Wax cylinders! That's great.

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:34 pm
by 23degreesdream
Just a question and i do not mean this as a snide comment - but do the people hankering for copies of things on cassette actually remember how annoying tapes were back in the 80's??!

Like, the reel coming out and having to wind it up with a pencil, or having hiss no matter how great your Dolby noise reduction was, or how it use to take such a long time to make mixtapes, or how sometimes your walkman would choose to chew up your tape out of sheer spite? I switched to CD as soon as i could. Vinyl i love, but tapes? Not a nostalgia thing for me. But each to their own i guess

:D