War. What is it good for?

[Valotonin]

'This is year four now'

2013. The world started changing in 2009... Really fucking changing.

[arvy]

'This is year four now'

2013. The world started changing in 2009... Really fucking changing.

progress my friend, I call it progress

[zeoevil]

I have always thought the "Listen." in Reach for the Dead sounded an awful lot like Donald Trump.

Where exactly in the track is that? I've actually never noticed it

3:23.

'This is year four now'

2013. The world started changing in 2009... Really fucking changing.

progress my friend, I call it progress

Progress down the path to the collective Orwellian nightmare known as our future! Can't wait!

[Cupz]

We're all gonna die.

[ParticleGhost]

"Drink your ovaltine.."

[drillkicker]

This has probably already been discussed in depth during my absence, but the more support Trump gets plus the recent developments in Britain sometimes make this album feel almost like a warning that not enough people listened to.

As unnatural as it is, war would still be a better alternative than the complete forfeit that the liberals seem intent on.

[Cupz]

war would still be a better....

*LOUD BUZZING NOISE*
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEH


War is never better. War is the most aweful thing in the universe.
A lot of people I've talked to lately seem to have a horrible attitude towards war. From statements like "it would help the economy" to "its less boring then...". Obviously people have forgotten what pain, torture, the smell of burning flesh and the unavoidable feeling of impending death and the shameful act one does to survive them is all about. I wish I was born in the 50's. My generation are a bunch of retards. The devil is inside them. (obivously I don't mean you drillkicker)

[Mexicola]

I dont think the previous generation have too much to be proud of either to be fair. I recall my Grandparents generation saying things like 'We need a good war' whenever things got tense somewhere in the world. Keep the numbers down, that kind of thing. I also seem to recall BOC of all people saying they welcomed collapse in one of their post TH interviews? I could be misquoting there, in which case I apologise in advance.

However, isn't it a sad indictment of us as a species that wiping part of the slate clean to start again sometimes seems like something positive? Why should we get to a point when slaughter is preferable to working things out?

That's not a dig at DK either by the way. Just a reflection on us as a species I guess?

[drillkicker]

War is never better. War is the most aweful thing in the universe.

Oh I'm sorry, but that seems like a subjective statement that you're trying to pass off as proven fact. I know that war isn't nice. It's completely alien and shouldn't exist. But I would prefer the sudden horrors and quick death of war to the slow and deceitful death that globalization heralds. At least the former is something humans have dealt with in the past.

[drillkicker]

And in response to Mexicola, this.

[Mexicola]

I'll take a look later, at work now.

Putting mod hat on for a sec, I think the thread is getting a little off topic. Someone want to find a more suitable thread for this and I'll tidy it up later tonight. Cheers.

[Valotonin]

I also seem to recall BOC of all people saying they welcomed collapse in one of their post TH interviews?

My personal feelings are that it is a reference to the collapse of society to the extent that people need to really evaluate what it is to be human and what it is to be self sufficient and not in a symbiotic relationship with a, by nature, volatile construct. Such a thing would be a positive change with pain involved. Like the kind of pain my ex is inflict... Never mind.

A lot of painful changes yield positive results but war is never an answer to that.

[re-phaelam-ed]

As unnatural as it is, war would still be a better alternative than the complete forfeit that the liberals seem intent on.

most fucking ignorant comment I've ever read. obviously written by someone that doesn't understand life and death and consequences, from a sheltered life.

fuck the second amendment. americans obviously are not responsible enough to carry weapons.

[Mexicola]

So the Telegraph reversed thread got derailed a little. Nobody to blame, just one of those things. Let's carry on the 'new' discussion hear instead. Thanks.

[re-phaelam-ed]

here...not hear

[Alien Sugar]

A bageldog down at sanjay's hindu mart.

[Mexicola]

here...not hear

Damn it..

[Valotonin]

And there was me thinking mdg liked my statement so much he gave me my own thread. Ah well. Mexi is just as cool (-:

[Mexicola]

Bless your heart Valotonin but there is no way on this Earth I'm as cool as MDG!

[Aesthetics]

It's good for economics.

As long as there are people there always be war and fights sad-fully. You'd expect that we as humanity become smarter and more understanding but in contrary, it divides us more and more