Tunes with odd time signatures

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Tunes with odd time signatures

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I've been experimenting with different time sigs, like 11/4 and was wondering which of your favourite boc songs are in irregular time signatures
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I'm sure I'm missing some but the only one I can think of from an official release that's not in 4/4 is Jacquard Causeway.
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Sunshine Recorder.
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Audiotrack A08 has some weird subdivisions going on, not 100% sure what the exact signature is though. Pretty sure June 9th is also in that same weird signature since it uses the same drum pattern.
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I think A08 is 4/4. I have a cover somewhat in the works, and it seems to fit in 4/4 from what I can tell. The first snare in each bar hits an 8th not later than the typical kick-snare-kick-snare pattern. Maybe that sounds unusual? There's also just a lot going on in that beat; pretty hard to decipher by ear.

Dandelion, while in 4/4 has a sort of unusual song structure pattern, with the motif repeating every 5 bars instead of 4 or 8..etc. That's counting the short breaks when it samples the voice, but it stays right on time.
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IronMark wrote:I'm sure I'm missing some but the only one I can think of from an official release that's not in 4/4 is Jacquard Causeway.
I can never work out if it is actually 4/4 with a slightly offset drum beat.
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Sherbet Head wrote:
IronMark wrote:I'm sure I'm missing some but the only one I can think of from an official release that's not in 4/4 is Jacquard Causeway.
I can never work out if it is actually 4/4 with a slightly offset drum beat.
The initial foundational beat of JC is 3/4.
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SamuraiDrifter wrote:
Sherbet Head wrote:
IronMark wrote:I'm sure I'm missing some but the only one I can think of from an official release that's not in 4/4 is Jacquard Causeway.
I can never work out if it is actually 4/4 with a slightly offset drum beat.
The initial foundational beat of JC is 3/4.
Yes, it is. Also two words regarding its composition, “Counterpoint”, and “Hemiola”... which they managed to incorporate both on this track wonderfully and hemiola also explains somewhat of why you hear two different time signatures at times.... not to mention the little “time shifts” that happen every so often that were the result of tweaking the recording motors on whatever tape machine used....
what about Basefree? Is that one in 4/4? I am not sure, it always sounded super odd to me... although BoC play in 4/4 a lot but in the off beat realm so things can sound different and odd at times.
Or what about Gyroscope? That one is weird too...
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They don't really have anything particularly crazy, I'd say Sunshine recorder is as good a candidate as any. If you take the melody at 3:13 as an example, assuming each repetition is the start of a bar, it's 4 and 6 (or 4, 4 and 2). Not sure if that's the pattern all the way throughout, I think it's better not to care in this case. There is nothing to be gained from counting this as 5 and 5 :)

As far as I remember, everything else is the same all the way through? 3 might be "odd" but it's not "unusual" :)

A08 and Basefree are definitely in 4.

As garrettwaded says, I think there are many songs where there are phrases of 5 bars rather than 4 or 8 bars, which I would say is idiosyncratic of BOC.

i think they may have mentioned it in an interview at some point that they prefer not to deviate.
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Twoism: 5 * 4/4 = 20/4
Amo Bishop Roden: 6 * 4/4 = 24/4
In a Beautiful Place Out in the Country: 5 * 4/4 = 20/4
Zoetrope: 11/8
Sunshine Recorder: 10/4
Julie and Candy: 5 * 4/4 = 20/4
The Beach at Redpoint: 10/4
Alpha and Omega: 5 * 4/4 = 20/4
The Devil is in the Details: 30/8
A is to B as B is to C: 9/8
Chromakey Dreamcoat: 6 * 4/4 = 24/4
Peacock Tail: 7 * 4/4 = 28/4
Dayvan Cowboy: 6 * 4/4 = 24/4
A Moment of Clarity: 3/1
84 Pontiac Dream: 5 * 4/4 = 20/4
Oscar See Through Red Eye: 6 * 4/4 = 24/4
Ataronchronon: 9/8
Slow This Bird Down: 5 * 4/4 = 20/4
Tears from the Compound Eye: 10/4
Left Side Drive: 3 * 4/4 = 12/4
Skyliner: 10 * 4/4 = 40/4
White Cyclosa: 9 * 4/4 = 36/4
Jacquard Causeway: 3/4
Telepath: 12/4
Cold Earth: 3 * 4/4 = 12/4
Transmissions Ferox: 5/8 & 9/8
Sick Times: 20 * 4/4 = 80/4
Collapse: 5/4
Palace Posy: 6 * 4/4 = 24/4
Split Your Infinities: 12 * 4/4 = 48/4
Uritual: 12/8
Nothing is Real: 3 * 4/4 = 12/4
Introit: 5/4
Hydrogen Helium Lithium Leviathan: 10/4
Somewhere Right Now in the Future: 7/8
Acts of Magic: ...
Into the Magic Land: 14 * 4/4 = 56/4
Blood in the Labyrinth: 11 * 4/4 = 44/4
Arena Americanada: (3 * 10/4) + (2 * 4/4) = 38/4
You Retreat in Time and Space: 7 * 4/4 = 28/4
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ahh you just beat me to it! i just realized SRNITF was in 7/4 (or your 7/8, either way)
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