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TrapWire

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:54 pm
by Amo Bishop Roden

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:02 pm
by Waterbagel
If only I could tag mech'j in this post..
We were just talking about it (sorta)!

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:22 pm
by zeitgeist
you'd think 1984 was an instruction manual.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:04 pm
by Amo Bishop Roden
zeitgeist wrote:you'd think 1984 was an instruction manual.
I lol'd

But seriously, how many of these little regulations that slip under the radar will it take before the US becomes a police state? I hate to be the guy that says this, as I'm normally the one laughing at the tin-foil hat types, but this is ridiculous.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:43 pm
by mechanismj
As I was saying to Waterbagel...

I'm not surprised. If you're going to put cameras on every street in a country, you're definitely going to want to develop a system that makes them more useful and efficient. Face recognition and data storage would be the only logical step.
zeitgeist wrote:you'd think 1984 was an instruction manual.
I heard Orwell got some of his inspiration from folks in the Fabian Society, much in the same way that Huxley did when he wrote Brave New World. The only difference being Orwell was opposed to things heading in this direction while Huxley embraced it.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:33 am
by zeitgeist
mechanismj wrote:As I was saying to Waterbagel...

I'm not surprised. If you're going to put cameras on every street in a country, you're definitely going to want to develop a system that makes them more useful and efficient. Face recognition and data storage would be the only logical step.
The EN-ESS-EH is building an enormous facility near me right now that supposedly is going to have like "yaddaflops" of data storage, or whatever the denomination (something like 10^24). That would do the job pretty well I'd say if they're planning on saving loads of video...
mechanismj wrote:
zeitgeist wrote:you'd think 1984 was an instruction manual.
I heard Orwell got some of his inspiration from folks in the Fabian Society, much in the same way that Huxley did when he wrote Brave New World. The only difference being Orwell was opposed to things heading in this direction while Huxley embraced it.
I've heard this too. Huxley's stance on a lot of things was always very confusing to me, particularly after I read doors of perception. I guess I thought psychedelic use had a tendency to strike empathetic and humanistic chords in everyone, not the 'opposite'.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:09 pm
by Cryabetes
Have you read Brave New World? It's pretty clear he was against a lot of the things he was showing. Reading Island definitely clears up his stance on the rest.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:47 pm
by mechanismj
Cryabetes wrote:Have you read Brave New World? It's pretty clear he was against a lot of the things he was showing. Reading Island definitely clears up his stance on the rest.
I've got it but haven't read it yet. Not exactly sure how I heard he was for these things instead of against them.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:22 pm
by Waterbagel
I definitely got the vibe that Huxley was against the things going on..
Partially aided by the whole *SPOILER* "savage-commits-suicide-at-the-end-of-the-story" part!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:43 am
by Synthestesia
Brave New World <3

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:59 am
by Waterbagel

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:57 am
by Negamuse
Trapwire and things like it... bother me.