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This is really cool.fujee wrote:
Here is a little experiment I did with 14 generations, not too bad, I added a little soundscape with it as well.
It's got potential, need to sit down and edit it properly soon.
So the iGrabber turned out to be a complete piece of shit. I had heard from a number of people that it could capture in raw DV form, and would be recognizable by any capture system. On both these counts, 'a number of people' were very, very wrong.pianoforte wrote:To divert the topic back to ME, ME, ME!!! for a moment...
I recently purchased an iGrabber USB Video Capture Device via Amazon; it just arrived in the mail.
This means that I can now capture VHS tapes in DV form and release them into the digital domain!
Just thought I'd mention that. -Maybe- expect some interesting things from me at some point in the future.
It is unfortunate, but all is not lost; someone on another forum is sending me their old Pinnacle analog video capture box free-of-charge; if I can get that to work in my Linux-based world, then I will have an analog>DV capture box after all (which is what I wanted in the first place!)TaoTapeTao wrote:This is unfortunate- I was looking forward to something awesome lol. That's lame that it ended up being a piece of shit.
Valotonin wrote:Celebrate collapse because it will be beautiful x
I wish I could help but I don't know squat about video. But Sabrina Ratte's stuff is amazing... I wish I knew how to make stuff like that...sevenELIXIR wrote:video makers- has anyone had experience with an azden vpc-10? I'm certain they don't make them anymore. I'm trying to experiment with optical (video) feedback; the kind of effect you hook a camcorder to the tv, play what your recording on the tv and film the screen, resulting in the "infinity" effect. check out sabrina ratte's stuff. if anyone knows of some super cheap vhs editing hardware that would create reverb/feedback on some of my home movies that would be cool. or something that I could overlay videos. this probably doesn't make much sense....
I'm not sure that I quite understand what you are trying to do.sevenELIXIR wrote:video makers- has anyone had experience with an azden vpc-10? I'm certain they don't make them anymore. I'm trying to experiment with optical (video) feedback; the kind of effect you hook a camcorder to the tv, play what your recording on the tv and film the screen, resulting in the "infinity" effect. check out sabrina ratte's stuff. if anyone knows of some super cheap vhs editing hardware that would create reverb/feedback on some of my home movies that would be cool. or something that I could overlay videos. this probably doesn't make much sense....
Valotonin wrote:Celebrate collapse because it will be beautiful x
Hm. That sounds like a VERY interesting idea. I can't think of any way (off the top of my head, so to speak) that that might be accomplished, but I wish you luck in figuring it out. I will post here if I think of anything.sevenELIXIR wrote:yeah I've done that a lot... pointing the camera at the tv... but what I'm trying to do is feed an image into the tv, and have the patterns come off of things within the image. say you have a video of a person walking on a hill with a tree. I'm looking to get patterns of multiple trees, people, within that image, almost like echoes, or reverb. I don't know what kind of hardware I'm even looking for, that's the problem.... I don't know what i don't know
Valotonin wrote:Celebrate collapse because it will be beautiful x
No, but after reading the whole thread I'm tempted to! I have 2 because I have a pretty extensive VHS collection (230+ tapes at this point) and would hate it if my VCR broke down and I couldn't watch half my movies. Why do I have so many you ask? I love film grain haha..and b-movies/horror movies from years ago and I find it wonderfully nostalgic to watch them in that format.pianoforte wrote:Excellent! Have you made anything interesting?harpoon dodger wrote:I also have 2 VCR's! Woohoo
aaaaaaaaaaaand... I was wrong.TaoTapeTao wrote:This is unfortunate- I was looking forward to something awesome lol. That's lame that it ended up being a piece of shit.
Valotonin wrote:Celebrate collapse because it will be beautiful x
I have never tried doing something quite that sophisticated, but the basic idea should be fairly easy to achieve and from there you can experiment.bearhead wrote:
Does anyone know how to make stuff like this? I'm thinking of experimenting with my camera and VCR today.
Valotonin wrote:Celebrate collapse because it will be beautiful x
There is a small problem with this setup and the feedback loop... If I were to run the camera as an input, the tape would catch what's coming from the camera instead of the television itself. If I wanted to capture the feedback loop, I would need to find a way to get the video from the tv to the VCR. But sadly, I can't seem to find any outputs on my tv. Well, there is a "PROG OUT" on my tv, but I ran that into the VCR, and just got static...pianoforte wrote:I have never tried doing something quite that sophisticated, but the basic idea should be fairly easy to achieve and from there you can experiment.bearhead wrote:
Does anyone know how to make stuff like this? I'm thinking of experimenting with my camera and VCR today.
1. Connect your camcorder to the video-input on your VCR. Often, this is accomplished using RCA cables (the same kind that likely connect your VCR to your TV).
2. Switch your VCR to the channel it needs to be on in order to be receiving input from the video-in/camera. If this isn't channel 2, 3 or 4, it's probably something below there. If you keep going to lower channels after 3, 2 and 1 you will start encountering channels with names like FRONT and/or INPUT or even L-1/F-1. One of these channels will be able to receive output from whatever is plugged into the VCR's video-in.
3. Switch your television to the channel in which it is recognizing output from the VCR. This is distinct from the VCR's channel; it's often 3 or 4, but it too can be somewhere in the lower end of available channels.
4. Once your VCR is getting output from the camera and the TV is displaying what the VCR is seeing, pop in a fresh (or otherwise!) VHS tape and press 'RECORD'. Turn on your camera and take some quick test shots of whatever you like; this can be a table, a chair, your eyelashes, etc. Press 'STOP', rewind the tape and press 'PLAY' to verify that the VCR is recording your camera's output correctly.
4. Assuming that the TV is still on the same channel and everything is going nicely, (e.g. you can turn on the camera and see what it's seeing through the viewfinder AND on the TV screen) you can now press 'RECORD' once again on your VCR and point the camera straight at the television screen. Try zooming in and out, panning and making other such movements to further experiment and create more distortions.
edit: see post#2 in this thread for another, probably-better-because-I-didn't-write-it explanation of how to get video onto a VHS tape.
With all due respect, I'm not sure you are correct.bearhead wrote:There is a small problem with this setup and the feedback loop... If I were to run the camera as an input, the tape would catch what's coming from the camera instead of the television itself. If I wanted to capture the feedback loop, I would need to find a way to get the video from the tv to the VCR. But sadly, I can't seem to find any outputs on my tv. Well, there is a "PROG OUT" on my tv, but I ran that into the VCR, and just got static...pianoforte wrote:I have never tried doing something quite that sophisticated, but the basic idea should be fairly easy to achieve and from there you can experiment.bearhead wrote:
Does anyone know how to make stuff like this? I'm thinking of experimenting with my camera and VCR today.
1. Connect your camcorder to the video-input on your VCR. Often, this is accomplished using RCA cables (the same kind that likely connect your VCR to your TV).
2. Switch your VCR to the channel it needs to be on in order to be receiving input from the video-in/camera. If this isn't channel 2, 3 or 4, it's probably something below there. If you keep going to lower channels after 3, 2 and 1 you will start encountering channels with names like FRONT and/or INPUT or even L-1/F-1. One of these channels will be able to receive output from whatever is plugged into the VCR's video-in.
3. Switch your television to the channel in which it is recognizing output from the VCR. This is distinct from the VCR's channel; it's often 3 or 4, but it too can be somewhere in the lower end of available channels.
4. Once your VCR is getting output from the camera and the TV is displaying what the VCR is seeing, pop in a fresh (or otherwise!) VHS tape and press 'RECORD'. Turn on your camera and take some quick test shots of whatever you like; this can be a table, a chair, your eyelashes, etc. Press 'STOP', rewind the tape and press 'PLAY' to verify that the VCR is recording your camera's output correctly.
4. Assuming that the TV is still on the same channel and everything is going nicely, (e.g. you can turn on the camera and see what it's seeing through the viewfinder AND on the TV screen) you can now press 'RECORD' once again on your VCR and point the camera straight at the television screen. Try zooming in and out, panning and making other such movements to further experiment and create more distortions.
edit: see post#2 in this thread for another, probably-better-because-I-didn't-write-it explanation of how to get video onto a VHS tape.
Valotonin wrote:Celebrate collapse because it will be beautiful x
Well yes, but wouldn't that reduce the quality, or does it really matter which "mirror" the video records from?pianoforte wrote:With all due respect, I'm not sure you are correct.bearhead wrote:There is a small problem with this setup and the feedback loop... If I were to run the camera as an input, the tape would catch what's coming from the camera instead of the television itself. If I wanted to capture the feedback loop, I would need to find a way to get the video from the tv to the VCR. But sadly, I can't seem to find any outputs on my tv. Well, there is a "PROG OUT" on my tv, but I ran that into the VCR, and just got static...pianoforte wrote: I have never tried doing something quite that sophisticated, but the basic idea should be fairly easy to achieve and from there you can experiment.
1. Connect your camcorder to the video-input on your VCR. Often, this is accomplished using RCA cables (the same kind that likely connect your VCR to your TV).
2. Switch your VCR to the channel it needs to be on in order to be receiving input from the video-in/camera. If this isn't channel 2, 3 or 4, it's probably something below there. If you keep going to lower channels after 3, 2 and 1 you will start encountering channels with names like FRONT and/or INPUT or even L-1/F-1. One of these channels will be able to receive output from whatever is plugged into the VCR's video-in.
3. Switch your television to the channel in which it is recognizing output from the VCR. This is distinct from the VCR's channel; it's often 3 or 4, but it too can be somewhere in the lower end of available channels.
4. Once your VCR is getting output from the camera and the TV is displaying what the VCR is seeing, pop in a fresh (or otherwise!) VHS tape and press 'RECORD'. Turn on your camera and take some quick test shots of whatever you like; this can be a table, a chair, your eyelashes, etc. Press 'STOP', rewind the tape and press 'PLAY' to verify that the VCR is recording your camera's output correctly.
4. Assuming that the TV is still on the same channel and everything is going nicely, (e.g. you can turn on the camera and see what it's seeing through the viewfinder AND on the TV screen) you can now press 'RECORD' once again on your VCR and point the camera straight at the television screen. Try zooming in and out, panning and making other such movements to further experiment and create more distortions.
edit: see post#2 in this thread for another, probably-better-because-I-didn't-write-it explanation of how to get video onto a VHS tape.
If you run your camera's output through the VCR and the VCR's output into the TV, the VCR will record what the camera sees, but if you point the camera at the screen the camera is seeing the feedback loop is it not?
