Devil in the details equation

kaini · Post by **kaini** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:23 am

iirc, what's used on this track is a slightly off harmony in fifths... which is based on the golden ratio or the fibonacci ratio (which are very close numerically, but not the same thing). in other words, the harmonies within the pad are very slightly out of tune... which adds to the queasy feel within the track

at least that was the theory, the group couldn't come to a consensus about it...

i'll add this to the wiki soon

plaster · Post by **plaster** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:21 am

steve-o wrote:I'm not checking interviews, sorry, but I thought that they built a beat with the Fibonacci Sequence (Golden Ratio).

i had a sample of that sequence somewhere on my hd. lemme try to find it.

*edit:

the fibonacci sequence.aiff
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plaster · Post by **plaster** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:28 am

kaini wrote:iirc, what's used on this track is a slightly off harmony in fifths... which is based on the golden ratio or the fibonacci ratio (which are very close numerically, but not the same thing). in other words, the harmonies within the pad are very slightly out of tune... which adds to the queasy feel within the track

at least that was the theory, the group couldn't come to a consensus about it...

i'll add this to the wiki soon

which moog is that?
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Moebius · Post by **Moebius** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:07 pm

My bad, I thought the OP was saying the name of the sound referred to an equation.

kaini · Post by **kaini** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:06 pm

plaster wrote:
kaini wrote:iirc, what's used on this track is a slightly off harmony in fifths... which is based on the golden ratio or the fibonacci ratio (which are very close numerically, but not the same thing). in other words, the harmonies within the pad are very slightly out of tune... which adds to the queasy feel within the track

at least that was the theory, the group couldn't come to a consensus about it...

i'll add this to the wiki soon

which moog is that?

plaster · Post by **plaster** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:13 pm

that is a moog or isn't? i thought i see a moog logo on the upper right side.
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kaini · Post by **kaini** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:19 pm

yeah, it's a moog, as is the musonics one. might not be the exact same model, but it's the same panel.

wwbjd · Post by **wwbjd** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:30 pm

Sonic-6

kaini · Post by **kaini** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:19 pm

aha

i was close

plaster · Post by **plaster** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:49 pm

do you think they use it for melodies?
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kaini · Post by **kaini** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:06 am

no, i just like moogs

plaster · Post by **plaster** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:20 am

why the hell did you post that image a few times now?
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wwbjd · Post by **wwbjd** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:48 am

That's part of his sig

That fiboncacci aiff is interesting.. where/how was it generated?

When slowed WAAAAAAAAY down it begins to sort of remind me of the dragged out "ropey / airplane sputtering out" bits in "Diving Station", but I'm pretty certain that's just something going through a ring modulator with no mysterious formula behind it.

I can see that each sound is hitting on a fairly rigid beat.. and it's breaking up, but what's it got to do with 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21 etc?

Listening to "Devil" again.. if there's anything that's supposed to be apparent in there, it's got to be in the hollow-ish main line.

Hell, there could just be musical representations of mathematical formulas all over the place, but it would just be too difficult to spot unless it was known how it was used.