Which tracks make you dismiss the Old Tunes or 35 track tape

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Techboy wrote:
noby wrote:pps. I'm 90% sure the music track heard on Apparatus is an amiga tracker module. Probably from a game or some demo (as in demoscene). Anyone know the source?
http://modarchive.org/index.php?request ... 5885#texts

i think its that, will need to check when im home ;p
Haha yes that is it! That .mod is just played at a slower tempo, changing F08 to F06 does the trick. I wonder how they came across sampling this...
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noby wrote:
Techboy wrote:
noby wrote:pps. I'm 90% sure the music track heard on Apparatus is an amiga tracker module. Probably from a game or some demo (as in demoscene). Anyone know the source?
http://modarchive.org/index.php?request ... 5885#texts

i think its that, will need to check when im home ;p
Haha yes that is it! That .mod is just played at a slower tempo, changing F08 to F06 does the trick. I wonder how they came across sampling this...
Wow, awesome, that's it! Cool lol. What are you using to play it? I grabbed XMPlay but I can't find an option for tempo anywhere.
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Ender wrote:
noby wrote:
Techboy wrote:http://modarchive.org/index.php?request ... 5885#texts

i think its that, will need to check when im home ;p
Haha yes that is it! That .mod is just played at a slower tempo, changing F08 to F06 does the trick. I wonder how they came across sampling this...
Wow, awesome, that's it! Cool lol. What are you using to play it? I grabbed XMPlay but I can't find an option for tempo anywhere.
XMPlay is a module player program, not an editor. You'd need to get a tracker, like Modplug Tracker or something to edit the notes, parametres etc.

Here's an mp3 encoding with the faster tempo: http://www.mediafire.com/?8s6fl9gsloxn859
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OP: You reminded me, and I do agree. If I had a least favorite track, one that I constistently skip and would not play to someone EVER, it might be "The Way You Show"
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What are the chances of someone even coming across that.

Now if only someone can find the one from Iraq Says(if that's also a mod tune anyway).
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Across the board, the old tunes are very hit and miss, with a plenty of gems, plenty of duds, and plenty of pretty good/alright tracks. Here are the ones I consider duds, broken down by tape:

A Few Old Tunes (this is the tape with the most duds)
Light, Clear Hair
Happy Cycling
House of Abin'adab
Mansel
The Way You Show
I Love U (this goes for The Color of the Fire as well)
King of Carnival
Wendy Miller
Paul Russell's Piece
Up the March Bank

Old Tunes Vol 2
We've Started Up
Nine-Rubber Wisdom
David Came to Mahana'im
It's A Whole 'Nother Year
Music for Pylons

Random 35 Track Tape
Audiotrack A07
Audiotrack B05 (this is my least favorite BoC track)
Audiotrack B12
(also House of Abin'adab, but I already said that one)
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ScienceGuy wrote:Across the board, the old tunes are very hit and miss, with a plenty of gems, plenty of duds, and plenty of pretty good/alright tracks. Here are the ones I consider duds, broken down by tape:

A Few Old Tunes (this is the tape with the most duds)
Light, Clear Hair
Happy Cycling
House of Abin'adab
Mansel
The Way You Show
I Love U (this goes for The Color of the Fire as well)
King of Carnival
Wendy Miller
Paul Russell's Piece
Up the March Bank

Old Tunes Vol 2
We've Started Up
Nine-Rubber Wisdom
David Came to Mahana'im
It's A Whole 'Nother Year
Music for Pylons

Random 35 Track Tape
Audiotrack A07
Audiotrack B05 (this is my least favorite BoC track)
Audiotrack B12
(also House of Abin'adab, but I already said that one)
Man, you listed so many great tunes there. Happy Cycling, House of Abin'adab, King of Carnival, Nine Rubber Wisdom, and It's a Whole 'Nother Year are some of my favorite BoC tracks ever.
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drillkicker wrote: Man, you listed so many great tunes there. Happy Cycling, House of Abin'adab, King of Carnival, Nine Rubber Wisdom, and It's a Whole 'Nother Year are some of my favorite BoC tracks ever.
Keep in mind I'm talking about the AFOT version of Happy Cycling (i.e. this one: ) and not the tremendous MHTRTC version of Happy Cycling that everyone's familiar with. Of course, you might be talking about that version too, in which case I apologize for coming across as condescending. However, at least in my view, I completely understand why BoC decided to reuse the title "Happy Cycling" for a completely different track that sounds nothing like the original (*cough* it's cause the original sucks *cough* :wink: )
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ScienceGuy wrote:Across the board, the old tunes are very hit and miss, with a plenty of gems, plenty of duds, and plenty of pretty good/alright tracks. Here are the ones I consider duds, broken down by tape:

A Few Old Tunes (this is the tape with the most duds)
Light, Clear Hair
Happy Cycling
House of Abin'adab
Mansel
The Way You Show
I Love U (this goes for The Color of the Fire as well)
King of Carnival
Wendy Miller
Paul Russell's Piece
Up the March Bank

Old Tunes Vol 2
We've Started Up
Nine-Rubber Wisdom
David Came to Mahana'im
It's A Whole 'Nother Year
Music for Pylons

Random 35 Track Tape
Audiotrack A07
Audiotrack B05 (this is my least favorite BoC track)
Audiotrack B12
(also House of Abin'adab, but I already said that one)
Please take Mansel off this list :(
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drillkicker wrote: Man, you listed so many great tunes there. Happy Cycling, House of Abin'adab, King of Carnival, Nine Rubber Wisdom, and It's a Whole 'Nother Year are some of my favorite BoC tracks ever.
Keep in mind I'm talking about the AFOT version of Happy Cycling (i.e. this one: ) and not the tremendous MHTRTC version of Happy Cycling that everyone's familiar with. Of course, you might be talking about that version too, in which case I apologize for coming across as condescending. However, at least in my view, I completely understand why BoC decided to reuse the title "Happy Cycling" for a completely different track that sounds nothing like the original (*cough* it's cause the original sucks *cough* :wink: )
But I love both versions. The Old Tunes one is so pretty. Listening to it again I can completely understand why you would think it sounds like shit, but the off-beat groove of it and that ambient polysynth make me feel so good every time the track comes on. You aren't condescending, by the way. Those confusions are bound to happen when a band releases two very different songs with the same name.

I'll just say the the Old Tunes version of Happy Cycling sounds a lot more "happy" than the other one.
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ScienceGuy wrote: Mansel
King of Carnival
David Came to Mahana'im
House of Abin'adab
what

I do agree on Music for Pylons though.

It wouldn't surprise me if B12 was Geyser from Hooper Bay, track length and just the feel of the song makes me think that. I like it but it seems to have that Twoism era feel to it, where you could say some of the music doesn't quite hang right with what came before and right after it. Thinking of Basefree here especially. (I prefer B12, in either case)
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I genuinely cannot think of any old tunes that I dislike, but the one I listen to the least is most likely B5. B12 really does have a Twoism vibe to it, and I've always had a pretty strong feeling that Hooper Bay follows a similar bleak feel, so it would make sense that B12 were to fit in nicely. Great track imo.
Opothecary wrote:It wouldn't surprise me if B12 was Geyser from Hooper Bay, track length and just the feel of the song makes me think that. I like it but it seems to have that Twoism era feel to it, where you could say some of the music doesn't quite hang right with what came before and right after it. Thinking of Basefree here especially. (I prefer B12, in either case)
What makes you say track length? I know tracks were most like truncated on the tape, but almost 2 minutes is quite a difference.
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ScienceGuy wrote:David Came to Mahana'im
I wish I had solid facts and a reasoned argument as to why you are emphatically wrong, but I do not. Could it be your David is mislabeled? It is a commonly mislabeled track after all.

"Sometimes users poorly or inaccurately tag MP3s. Some legitimate Boards of Canada tracks are mislabeled. For instance, "David Came To Mahana'im" and "Sir Prancelot Brainfire" are commonly confounded mp3s on P2P networks."

Also, House of Abin'adab is the worst song in the history of music.
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zeoevil wrote:Also, House of Abin'adab is the worst song in the history of music.
I wish I had solid facts and a reasoned argument as to why you are emphatically wrong, but I do not. :wink:
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Gevel wrote:Now if only someone can find the one from Iraq Says(if that's also a mod tune anyway).
I'm four years late, but...
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zeoevil wrote:
ScienceGuy wrote:David Came to Mahana'im
I wish I had solid facts and a reasoned argument as to why you are emphatically wrong, but I do not. Could it be your David is mislabeled? It is a commonly mislabeled track after all.

"Sometimes users poorly or inaccurately tag MP3s. Some legitimate Boards of Canada tracks are mislabeled. For instance, "David Came To Mahana'im" and "Sir Prancelot Brainfire" are commonly confounded mp3s on P2P networks."
The David Came to Mahana'im as labeled on my tape is this track: which I believe is correctly labeled. This track has a synth lead that I find utterly uninteresting. This synth lead, including variations of it, repeats over and over again for 4.5 minutes and comprises the entire track. Now, if you find this lead engaging and fun, you're gonna like this track, perhaps a lot. In which case, good on you. I'd rather like this track than not like it, and I'd rather you like it as well. However, if you, like me, just can't get into that synth lead at all, then you're gonna find this track pretty dull like I do. Unless I really want to force myself to listen to all the OTV2 tracks in order (or I'm zoning out/sleeping when this comes on), I pretty much always skip this track.
zeoevil wrote:Also, House of Abin'adab is the worst song in the history of music.
Hey hey hey whoa there. Let's not make rash comments. I mean, Abin'adab is far from my favorite BoC track, but it's a BoC track. Pretty much every track they've made, even the "bad" ones (except for B05, which is legitimately terrible), is good compared to the entirety of music ever released. If you were to pit Abin'adab (and Mahana'im for that matter) against a random track selected from the Everything Music Library, I'd bet that it would come out the superior track much more often than not.
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I like the way the "A whole 'nother year''s exploded melody reminds the massive hangover you could have after the new year's eve. Very pessimistic for the upcoming 364 days. A pretty wry song, really sounds richly ironic to me
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Kaem wrote:I like the way the "A whole 'nother year''s exploded melody reminds the massive hangover you could have after the new year's eve. Very pessimistic for the upcoming 364 days. A pretty wry song, really sounds richly ironic to me
Wow, I've never thought of it like that but it makes perfect sense now.
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ScienceGuy wrote:
zeoevil wrote:
ScienceGuy wrote:David Came to Mahana'im
I wish I had solid facts and a reasoned argument as to why you are emphatically wrong, but I do not. Could it be your David is mislabeled? It is a commonly mislabeled track after all.

"Sometimes users poorly or inaccurately tag MP3s. Some legitimate Boards of Canada tracks are mislabeled. For instance, "David Came To Mahana'im" and "Sir Prancelot Brainfire" are commonly confounded mp3s on P2P networks."
The David Came to Mahana'im as labeled on my tape is this track: which I believe is correctly labeled. This track has a synth lead that I find utterly uninteresting. This synth lead, including variations of it, repeats over and over again for 4.5 minutes and comprises the entire track. Now, if you find this lead engaging and fun, you're gonna like this track, perhaps a lot. In which case, good on you. I'd rather like this track than not like it, and I'd rather you like it as well. However, if you, like me, just can't get into that synth lead at all, then you're gonna find this track pretty dull like I do. Unless I really want to force myself to listen to all the OTV2 tracks in order (or I'm zoning out/sleeping when this comes on), I pretty much always skip this track.
zeoevil wrote:Also, House of Abin'adab is the worst song in the history of music.
Hey hey hey whoa there. Let's not make rash comments. I mean, Abin'adab is far from my favorite BoC track, but it's a BoC track. Pretty much every track they've made, even the "bad" ones (except for B05, which is legitimately terrible), is good compared to the entirety of music ever released. If you were to pit Abin'adab (and Mahana'im for that matter) against a random track selected from the Everything Music Library, I'd bet that it would come out the superior track much more often than not.
I prefer B05 to Abin'adab. It's all about that improv piano synth, really dark and atonal but somehow it works. But House of A is important because of it's similarities to the excerpt of Circle from Hooper Bay. David isn't bad if you like trancey repetitiveness.
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House of Abin'adab is one of my favorite BoC tracks ever.
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