But you're the one who invoked Godwin's Law, and I agree it isn't a good look. I'll be frightened when Trump gets an amendment passed that will put him at the head of the legislative and judicial branches of government, but the Constitution has certainly been around longer than the Weimar Republic, and I believe it's safe to say that it's vastly more stable.Opothecary wrote:Yikes, now we're invoking Godwin's Law. Not a good look. Humanity is inherently ugly and selfish, saying that something like Nazi Germany couldn't ever happen again is naive and foolish. Wrap it up in the stars and stripes and give it a shitty haircut, still ugly and selfish (and a compulsive backpedalling liar)
I was only repeating something you said. I don't understand why you got offended by your own statement. Anyway, another thing that psychedelic drugs are good at is making people believe some really crazy shit.Opothecary wrote:Believe it or not, ingesting psilocybin or LSD once or twice a year for a handful of years doesn't turn one into a babbling fool hiding under one's bed later in life; on the other hand, it does have an interesting persistent effect. It's a little like going to a magic show and having the ability to know how all the magic tricks are performed. Long term, it turned me into an excellent reader of people. It wouldn't surprise me if some of the better professional poker players are experienced psychonauts. The one bad thing is, you do lose your sense of wonder in some respects.
It isn't "Hitler without the Jews" because Hitler was also very passionate about territorial expansion of Germany, which, as far as I understand, is not one of Don's goals. The territorial expansion is also the reason why Hitler failed as a leader, so I don't see how having a similar leader but without the war and genocide would be a bad thing. As for the Manson comparison, you're really stretching with that one. When a leading presidential candidate attempts to start a race war based on messages hidden in Beatles lyrics, then I might take that back.Opothecary wrote:Seeing the rubes fall for Trump's snake oil salesman routine is only "terrifying" because you can see exactly what is going on while supposedly otherwise intelligent people are eating out his hands. It's Hitler without the Jews and Manson without the LSD. Lost souls looking for someone else to make things right.
I don't know who you're trying to argue with at this point.Opothecary wrote:It's unfortunate the way modern Western culture demonizes "drug use" and puts it all under one tent. When we look back hundreds of years at traditional tribal structures and compare Western culture to that, the people who choose to intelligently ingest particular substances would have been (respected) medicine men back then. Now we call them hippies. We don't have actual tribes anymore, but I don't feel we have outgrown the need for the role of "medicine men". We still need to be responsible for getting in touch with our own true spirituality that isn't being monetized or manipulated in some way via organized religion. If each man is now a tribe in and of themselves, that means that we need to be our own medicine men; I feel that our society is in chaos and disarray partially because the powers that be have trained us out of being seekers. Now we're just consumers. We are out of balance.
I don't consider myself a "drug user" - I cut my hair and work 9 to 5 like anyone else. Please save the condescension for people who have actually been harmed spiritually, physically or emotionally by real drugs. To put it more bluntly, if you want to consider me a disabled drug addict, then I wish you good luck with your Koresh/Hitler/Manson style worship of a failed 4 times bankrupt billionaire New York liberal lifelong friend of the Clintons who decided he wanted to become a Republican this year to shake things up...because he was bored.
And now you're just making bigoted generalizations that I don't care to discuss.Opothecary wrote:Ultimately the engine that runs the Trump groundswell is 50-75 year old baby boomers that have never had to really work for anything, that sort of just coasted through life on the efforts of the WW2 generation (and their children who can't think for themselves). The Gen Xers were innovators, but the boomers are really just like an older, more racist, less skilled and just as entitled version of today's twenty somethings (I won't use the dreaded m word)
I'm not wrong. Also, there's a difference between responding to the will of the people and pandering.Techboy wrote:if this is the crux of the matter then that's astounding and i've really missed something around this whole debate. rather than vote for the politician who is malleable and responds and listens to the will of the people, you're saying people are going to vote for the one who's a stubborn fucking asshole just because he's honest about it?
When is the last time there has been a presidential candidate with whom you agreed ?Techboy wrote:bullshit, SURELY. anyone who says that's why they are voting trump is deluding themselves. the fact is that a voter would only cast a ballot for this cunt if they already actually agreed with his views. and imo if they agree with his views then they are nasty, sick minded, myopic, entitled and self-serving. and if they genuinely do not agree with his views but they vote for him anyway, then they are just a fucking idiot, which is a different thing but still a sign of the fuckin' end times.
