Gaza, 1000+ killed, and counting...

eppers · Post by **eppers** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:02 am

hexagon son wrote:i think regardless of all of the individual political stances are on the situation there, all our hopes and prayers are with you, your family, the innocent palestinian people, and yes, the innocent israeli people. those who are guilty of this bloodshed will, in the end, get what they deserve.

again eppers, stay safe.

respect bro.

eppers · Post by **eppers** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:04 pm

412 killed.
2000 wounded...

Phasen · Post by **Phasen** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:11 pm

A friend I played tball with at age 4 who lived down my street for all of my childhood, graduated form high school with me, etc...he just left to join the Israeli army for a 2 year stint last Saturday. The next day I hear that violence is starting up again. Hooray.

This world is a mess. It's kind of hard to be optimistic.

eppers · Post by **eppers** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:47 pm

Phasen wrote:A friend I played tball with at age 4 who lived down my street for all of my childhood, graduated form high school with me, etc...he just left to join the Israeli army for a 2 year stint last Saturday. The next day I hear that violence is starting up again. Hooray.

This world is a mess. It's kind of hard to be optimistic.

it's sad that service in the israeli army is obligatory. you have no choice

EDIT: and btw, no israeli's soldiers died in the war, all attacks happen from fighter jets and helicopters

sacred_geometry · Post by **sacred_geometry** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:35 am

Isn't Hamas a political party that supports the destruction of Israel? It says so in its charter. And haven't radical Palestinians in Gaza been firing rockets onto Israeli soil recently? I mean, if Mexico were to elect a party based on its hatred for the US and it's radical elements began firing missles into Texas, there would be a response from the US government. This is not to say that we can condone Israel's actions either. They are killing hundreds and destroying communities. The tremendous use of force they are using is not justified by any means. But the psychological history of violence and religious animosity in the region unfortunately indicate that this conflict will continue.

eppers · Post by **eppers** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:32 am

sacred_geometry wrote:Isn't Hamas a political party that supports the destruction of Israel? It says so in its charter. And haven't radical Palestinians in Gaza been firing rockets onto Israeli soil recently? I mean, if Mexico were to elect a party based on its hatred for the US and it's radical elements began firing missles into Texas, there would be a response from the US government. This is not to say that we can condone Israel's actions either. They are killing hundreds and destroying communities. The tremendous use of force they are using is not justified by any means. But the psychological history of violence and religious animosity in the region unfortunately indicate that this conflict will continue.

It's going to continue, unfortunately.
But as I always say, Israel knew what it was doing when it pulled out of Gaza, and when it closed it's borders.. Israel has one of the best intelligence centers in the world, they definitely knew what was happening, and I believe they wanted this to happen in order for their right wing to win in the elections..

Sad but true.

Mexicola · Post by **Mexicola** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 1:21 pm

Big demonstrations being held today in UK. Also had the first calls I've seen to boycott Israeli goods and to remove our Ambassador from Tel Aviv.

john fonda · Post by **john fonda** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 2:35 pm

israel have been fucking over palestine for decades,children as young as 6 are attempting suicide,they are trying to steal land as they believe it is their "right"

The Telepathic Kid · Post by **The Telepathic Kid** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 2:51 pm

Glad to hear you're OK Eppie.
<3

eppers · Post by **eppers** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:09 am

470..

Korona 1969 · Post by **Korona 1969** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:06 pm

The death toll in Gaza has now passed 500. Al Jazeera is broadcasting some heartbreaking footage of a mother and her four dead children...

eppers · Post by **eppers** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:11 pm

Korona 1969 wrote:The death toll in Gaza has now passed 500. Al Jazeera is broadcasting some heartbreaking footage of a mother and her four dead children...

I was just gonna make the same comment.
I'm glad you're watching Al Jazeera bruv..

much love

Post by **Aesthetics** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:31 pm

Will it ever stop

eppers · Post by **eppers** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:28 am

509 dead...
it's dreadful, and it doesn't seem that it's stopping..

eppers · Post by **eppers** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:42 am

Mexicola · Post by **Mexicola** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:18 pm

Interested to know what people make of Obamas quote saying only one US President should be involved at a time?

Seems to me you could read that one of two ways. Either a) his angle will be so dramatically different to Bush that he can't be seen to contradict the current idiots - sorry! - administration until his inauguration. Or b) he knows full well that despite his best efforts any attempts by him to distance the US from Israel will be scuppered by Neo-Con power/money within US business and Government and he is hoping the offensive will end before he takes office in 2 weeks time.

Thoughts/opinions?

EDIT: apparently ol' Barack is now "Deeply concerned about civilian casualties". Phew! For a minute there I thought he wasn't going to get too heavily involved....

eppers · Post by **eppers** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:50 pm

635.. last time i posted was 12:42 pm my time, now it's 5:49 pm..

eppers · Post by **eppers** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:55 pm

640..

5 mins since last post.

a school for UNRWA was attacked and 40 Palestinians were killed.

Skytree · Post by **Skytree** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:12 pm

Wonder where all of that Israeli firepower is coming from?

Your taxes.

Israel is the single highest recipient of US foreign aid; approximately 2.4 billion USD every year. A majority goes to purchasing the weapons that are killing all of those people you're reading about.

turquoise70 · Post by **turquoise70** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:21 pm

Mexicola wrote: EDIT: apparently ol' Barack is now "Deeply concerned about civilian casualties".

For a minute there I was worried Barack Obama was unconcerned about civilian casualties, but I guess everything is okay after all.

*bad mood*